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RE: Conditoning


Hi I am new here :D
I just wanted to mention that if you start practicing in front of others, definitly choose the people.
Its so hell important, as i noticed when showing it to some friends.
One of them is sceptic as hell and his view of reality was enough to lock me down.

When his attetion moved onto something else I could barely practice, with his attention nothing happend.

So what now happend is that i couldnt perform any TK even he was absence.
I was wondering why?
His pure belief that TK can not be real and that I definitly are not performing it, became a new reality that manifested.

The problem was now i just saw one way out of this. Proof this guy wrong.
But for this i had to change his belief system from "definitly not possible" to "might be possible".
If you have never heard of NLP this can be a serious problem since Beliefs are almost not to change by someone else.

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NLP

Control your own mind...tell your own stroy:)





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I don't know if you will be able to read this you may need a magnifying glass.  smile
It was in the New Scientist magazine about precognition experiments by Daryl Bem
.There are some good points in here about the difference between skeptics and believers results,   which may reveal are huge flaw in the way most researches test their hypothesis

But my favorite remark was

"The race is on to replicate the results, and New Scientist's bet is most attempts will fail"

Really optimistic lol




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I always love how writers/critics with no understanding of precog or TK postulate their opinion as mainstream fact (sarcasm) I used to subscribe to this magazine until I saw an underlying them they use an oxymoron in their Title of their issue when really they push an orthodox agenda most of the time I still find the subjects they critic fascinating I just am more careful of how I absorb their critisisms. :)

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Yeah I am beginning to notice that, there's quite an interesting article this week about quantum time travel though

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Nice. Low probability doesn't mean that it's 0. For some reason, a lot of people think that way - when there's a slim chance it's going to happen, then they see that it can't possibly happen as a fact (incredibly common way of thinking in my school as well).

In my opinion, probability itself doesn't hold much meaning. A 0 probability with occasional short 100% peaks may be seen as something like 10^-24. Now when during these 100% peaks the event definitely happens and scientists consider 10^-24 as 0 probability, then there are already events that science has not foreseen.

Probability per a certain time period would be better, but without a precise date, it's still no proof. And even when there would be a precise date attached to every probability, one can't prove anything with it - because it has been measured / calculated for that one moment only (it still doesn't explain when the events should take place).

This low probability is what they often use as a cover to back up their skepticism.

For some reason, statistics is often used for proving things. However, statistics is one of the easiest to manipulate with, as one can easily twist the results to reflect what they believe.

I figure this post ended up a bit aggressive blankstare.



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Okay in the article using the probability argument against psi without understanding the variables is like a bear poking a beehive and expecting them to give him the power of flight.

I know this ridiculous visual is farfetched however it seems to be what non studiers of psionics apply when they consider the possibility that we can do what we do. We in fact spend long amounts of time appreciating all the factors and in meditation learning to feel the variables which bypasses the speech portion of the brain and can help us access the infinite amount of processing power of the higher mind. Something that regulates all our bodies systems.

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This is an oldie but a goodie. It uses mathematics and slight of hand to give the illusion of a telepathic or magical connection. These sorts of dupes are responsible for much of the mistrust of genuine displays in the community.

Very often it will make the individual go WTF then when their reality has been challenged and they find out how the trick was done they assign that filter to all phenomenon that falls under a similar classification. Ergo they make a similar assumption so that they do not have to feel duped again. Learning to to have an open mind and experiment is important. We all apply filters and make assumptions on reality. Even Randi makes this point in one of his videos.

I think looking at experience with unbiased new eyes is the best way to discover the wonder of something that has never been considered before. The road of the pioneer the inventor.  Anyway have a go of this it is fun but remember it is an illusion of course lol :)
http://www.milaadesign.com/wizardy.html


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Thats very clever I just did it 3 times and it was right, I suppose it can't be wrong.

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O12 I am finding a lot of correlations and insight in Kahuna teachings and recorded knowledge that cross references with many yoga techniques.

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I totally agree; I've found through comparative cultural studies of various spiritual disciplines, that concentration skill, is a common denominator:)



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Read "Trance-Formation of America" last weekend:
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/transforusa/transformation.htm

It was a real eye-opener for me. It helped me recognize aspects of myself that I was previously not aware of. Also, the methods used for mind-control seemed pretty useful for self-design (conditioning oneself). Awareness of these methods might also help to gain some immunity against the media conditioning.

However, the text is fairly long, contains foul language and stains the present powers. If you read it, I suggest applying compassion and empathy towards all parties involved.



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