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RE: Teleportation


Yes, but it's more fair to say that it's happened to me, rather than that I did anything. It was more of a poltergeist event(unconscious psychokinesis), than anything under my conscious control:)



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Please, tell me more! Like how far did you go? What it did look like if anyone else saw?

What would be involved in learning to do it at will?



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In theory, & (some personal experience) you should be able to use the space kasina for teleportation. Your concentration would need to be at a high skill level though. However, as with all other concentration objects; you may experience weaker or less controlled manifestation of the power, even before mastery. Also, kasina practice is not the only way, as you can concentrate on anything to acquire it's essence. You can learn similar powers from the yoga sutras for instance. I just use kasina practice because the instructions are very specific.

As I began to master travel in astral dimensions & build up my etheric body through tantric cultivation; I found that I could make my etheric body have semi solid effects on reality at remote distances. Sometimes people who didn't know I was going to visit them with my etheric body, would tell me that they could feel my presence; see me vaguely, & definitely feel physical contact if I initiated it. Sometimes I would effect their electrical equipment. This of course is closer to bilocation than teleportation. However, I have always suffered extreme poltergeist phenomena, meaning my unconscious expressions of PK, are many times stronger than my conscious control. For example, I unconsciously slide furniture around, but can only consciously roll a can when I've been concentrated for awhile in practice. Since this is the case for me, I am guessing that teleportation as I've experienced it was a more powerful version of the bilocation, which my subconscious has access to.

The space kasina can be one of the most challenging for people, because emptiness doesn't have an initial sign or concept to grasp onto for concentration. I did find though, after awhile, that there is an extreme pressure in the vacuum of the empty space. The more you concentrate on it; the more solid it becomes. It's what many yogis call akosha; ether, citta(mind stuff). It's can be molded into plasma like constructs, or press into, like pressing through a dense field. If I want to effect a distant location; I visualize it very brightly, at a hallucination level equal or greater than physical matter reality. Next, I apply the space kasina, then press into the scene.

I hope that helps:)

P.S. One may also use the space kasina for levitation, or phasing through solid objects.



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In terms of distance traveled; for me it was about 2 city blocks on one occasion, & about half a mile on another occasion. The experiences were spontaneous & uncontrolled. I didn't really stick around to check on anyone's observations. Though, I've seen plenty of people react to me performing PK & Telepathic influence. These reactions vary from wonder, horror, delight, & denial; it's always different depending on the persons history & personality:)



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Very interesting! That would certainly be very useful to master--I hope I do someday!

What stage do you recommend I'm at as defined by that first book you sent me, in order to start practicing with the kasinas? Cause that sounds really interesting. That concentration practice (not specifically the kasinas) should make astral projection a lot easier too right?

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The space kasina can be one of the most challenging for people, because emptiness doesn't have an initial sign or concept to grasp onto for concentration. I did find though, after awhile, that there is an extreme pressure in the vacuum of the empty space. The more you concentrate on it; the more solid it becomes. It's what many yogis call akosha; ether, citta(mind stuff). It's can be molded into plasma like constructs, or press into, like pressing through a dense field. If I want to effect a distant location; I visualize it very brightly, at a hallucination level equal or greater than physical matter reality. Next, I apply the space kasina, then press into the scene.

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Interesting. Makes a lot of sense, though, I haven't thought about it like that.

I associated radio waves with tension in space / ether. For me, space kasina practice resulted in a lot of crackling walls and electromagnetic poltergeists.



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flarn2006, you don't need to order the book in a hierarchy. I didn't know what  style of meditation your personality would favor, so I gave you a few easy to understand books. You may begin kasina, practice when ever you wish. I don't know you personally enough to judge your progress, but there are concentration sign posts. It's better for you, if you just practice without analyzing how you are progressing too much. You can definitely share your experiences if you like, & I am happy to share my experience as it relates to yours.

The Alan Wallace, book, is a good lay introduction to concentration. You would only benefit from finishing it. You may want to read "Focused and Fearless", next. If you want to go directly to Kasina instruction though, you can read The Visuddhimagga

It's not an easy read for modern lay practitioners, which is why I'm writing a book about Kasina powers, but it tells you what you need to know. In my opinion though, if you're only interested in cultivating powers; it's eough to master jhana level concentration, & apply it to the kasina of choice, or any other concentration object. There are powers for example which come from concentrating on objects outside of kasina practice. Also, there are multiple ways to achieve the same powers. Levitation is one with multiple methods:)

Sussch, Nassim Haramein, mentions in one of his videos, that the ambient pressure in the vacuum is equivalent to the pressure in a black hole, & that our universe may actually be a black hole. Many tantric yogis also believe that the center of each energy center is a black hole, & the kundalini force is is a microcosm of the big bang. I don't usually mean the physical vacuum, when I speak of emptiness, but sometimes I do:)

P.S. Kasina Practices have multiple power manifestations. Also, You can use the element on one kasina to transmute the properties of another.



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owltwelve wrote:
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Sussch, Nassim Haramein, mentions in one of his videos, that the ambient pressure in the vacuum is equivalent to the pressure in a black hole, & that our universe may actually be a black hole. Many tantric yogis also believe that the center of each energy center is a black hole, & the kundalini force is is a microcosm of the big bang. I don't usually mean the physical vacuum, when I speak of emptiness, but sometimes I do:)

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Yep, I've watched a few of his videos. I was lucky that the physical vacuum not being empty was taught in the 10th grade.
Though, just recently I still considered the holographic universe (and each particle consisting of black holes) fringe science: https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/6o8bue/the_amount_of_quantum_vacuum_fluctuations_that/

What I had not realized is that I had also focused on space rather than psi. Also, since the aether theory is out of fashion, nowadays the relation between space and electromagnetic waves is a bit less obvious. I wasn't aware that subconsciously I had assumed it all worked via aether anyway.



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Ro wrote:

I have definitely been informed that I was incorrect in my attributing this model to LeoDragon although I still think that it has some good angles for investigation.

In regards to the telepathic teleportation angle I postulated before I found this article during my research. I just wanted to add it as it supports some experiments I have done in regards to sharing emotionally charged experiences and using the reciting of said experience to activate memory or those it was shared with.

I will add the url and the article in total below



Quantum pseudo-telepathy is a phenomenon in quantum game theory resulting in anomalously high success rates in coordination games between separated players. These high success rates would seem to require communication between the players; however, the game is set up such that during the game, this is physically impossible. Quantum pseudo-telepathy relies on the fact that the quantum laws of physics are subtly non-local and allow violations of the Bell inequalities. This means that for quantum pseudo-telepathy to occur, prior to the game the participants need to share a physical system in an entangled quantum state, and during the game have to execute measurements on this entangled state as part of their game strategy. Games in which the application of such a quantum strategy leads to pseudo-telepathy are also referred to as quantum non-locality games.

In their 1999 paper,[1]Gilles Brassard, Richard Cleve and Alain Tapp demonstrated that winning quantum strategies can exist in simple games for which in the absence of quantum entanglement a winning strategy can result only if the participants were allowed to communicate. The term quantum pseudo-telepathy was later introduced[2] for this phenomenon. The prefix 'pseudo' is appropriate, as the quantum non-locality effects that are at the heart of the phenomenon do not allow any transfer of information, but rather eliminate the need to exchange information between the players for achieving a mutual win in the game.

The phenomenon of quantum pseudo-telepathy is mostly used as a powerful and explicit thought experiment of the non-local characteristics of quantum mechanics. Yet, the effect is real and subject to experimental verification, as demonstrated by the experimental confirmation of the violation of the Bell inequalities.

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[edit] The Mermin-Peres magic square game

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When attempting to construct a 3x3 table filled with the numbers +1 and -1, such that each row has an even number and each column an odd number of negative entries, a conflict is bound to emerge.

An example of quantum pseudo-telepathy can be observed in the following two-player coordination game in which the participants fill one row and one column of a 3x3 table with plus and minus signs.

The two players Alice and Bob are separated so that no communication between them is possible. In each round of the game Alice gets informed which row is selected, and Bob is being told which column is selected. Alice does not get to know the column Bob has been presented with, and vice versa (Bob remains unaware of the row presented to Alice). Alice and Bob both have to put the same sign in the cell common to the row and column selected. Furthermore (and this is the catch), Alice has to fill the remainder of the row such that there is an even number of signs in that row, whilst Bob has to fill the remainder of the column such that there is an odd number of signs in that column.

It is easy to see that any prior agreement between Alice and Bob on the use of specific tables filled with + and signs is not going to help them. The reason being that such tables simply do not exist: as these would be self-contradictory with the sum of the minus signs in the table being even based on row sums, and being odd when using column sums.

So, how can Alice and Bob succeed in their task?

The trick is for Alice and Bob to share an entangled quantum state and to use specific measurements on their components of the entangled state to derive the table entries. A suitable correlated state consists of a pair of Bell states:

\left|\phi<br>ight<br>ang = \frac{1}{\sqrt{2}} \bigg(\left|+<br>ight<br>ang_a \otimes \left|+<br>ight<br>ang_b + \left<IMG SRC=right
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ang_b \bigg) \otimes \frac{1}{\sqrt{2}} \bigg(\left|+
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here |+> and |-> are eigenstates of the Pauli operator Sz with eigenvalues +1 and -1, respectively, whilst the subscripts a and b denote which component of each Bell state is going to Alice and which one goes to Bob.

Observables for these components can be written as products of the Pauli spin matrices:

S_x = \begin{bmatrix} 0 & 1 \\ 1 & 0 \end{bmatrix}  , S_y = \begin{bmatrix} 0 & -i \\ i & 0 \end{bmatrix} , S_z = \begin{bmatrix} 1 & 0 \\ 0 & -1 \end{bmatrix}

Products of these Pauli spin operators can be used to fill the 3x3 table such that each row and each column contains a mutually commuting set of observables with eigenvalues +1 and -1, and with the product of the obervables in each row being the identity operator, and the product of observables in each column equating to minus the identity operator. This so-called Mermin-Peres magic square[3] is shown in below table.

+S_x \otimes I+S_x \otimes S_x+I \otimes S_x
-S_x \otimes S_z+S_y \otimes S_y-S_z \otimes S_x
+I \otimes S_z+S_z \otimes S_z+S_z \otimes I

Effectively, while it is not possible to construct a 3x3 table with entries +1 and -1 such that the product of the elements in each row equals +1 and the product of elements in each column equals -1, it is possible to do so with the richer algebraic structure based on spin matrices.

 

[edit] Current research

It has been demonstrated[4] that the above described game is the simplest two-player game in which quantum pseudo-telepathy can occur. Other games in which Quantum pseudo-telepathy occurs have been studied, including larger magic square games,[5] graph colouring games[6] and multiplayer games involving more than two participants.[7] Recent studies tackle the question of the robustness of the effect against noise due to imperfect measurements on the coherent quantum state.[8]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_pseudo-telepathy


 Great answer man, thank you and keep up your hard word



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Thank you for digging that up :)

Perhaps the next idea for a pk game.



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