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RE: Obe/PK


Dude! You were trying to teleport!?! I love it; do it some more:) What was your appraoch & theory. It would be great to read more details about the experience if you feel like sharing. Sometimes when testing a new theory for development of a specific skill, I often discover something cool that I wasn't looking for. For instance, a lot of my PK training has lead to getting better at OBEs & telepathy.

Also, the healing thing makes a lot of sense. Another big benefit of PK training, has been greater confidence in my biofeild as it relates to positively effecting others:)

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I awoke early this morning to a very powerful awareness of my energy body. I knew that I had just been out of body even though I didn't remember the details quite well. I decided to take this intense energy awareness to work on clearing some energy blockages I might have. In some parts of my body the energy flowed smoothly while in other parts, it was like thunder crackling! Anyway, I went back to sleep feeling great and had dreams of sharing healing energy with others, though this has never been a particular focus of mine. Out in the world today with the blockages clear; I felt much more connected than usual with PK! Also, I took the opportunity later in the day to lay healing hands on a cat I know, who recently endured a surgery. She really seemed to appreciate the connection:)

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So far I have visualized being in a different place. I haven't gotten any further from feeling myself at the new place and when I open my eyes, I realize I'm still at the first place. As much as I could put the bilocation experience into words: http://sussch-daweird.blogspot.com/2008/12/redundancy.html.

I'm somewhat afraid of OBE's and teleportation as well so I have been postponing practicing on these fields.

My fears on OBEs:

  • How does my body function when I'm gone? Could some kind of a sleepwalking happen? How quickly would body switch to some autonomous mode (breathing on its own)?
  • What if someone else takes over? I have heard that it's impossible, but this dream seemed kind of suspicious: http://sussch-daweird.blogspot.com/2009/09/waking-up-in-another-body.html.
  • Can connection to my body somehow get lost?

My fears on teleportation:

  • What if I teleport to my summerhouse and have to be back for school or something even more important the next day?
  • What would happen if I teleport into multiple places at once? Could I perhaps injure my body with this?
  • Can one accidentally teleport into a solid object?
  • How can I be sure that I'm visualizing myself in the right time and dimension?

None of these would be worth being afraid of when I would detach from the materialistic world and give everything up just like a yogi would. I don't think I'm ready for this quite yet ..smile



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After some tense intense Radiometer training last night, I went to bed wiped out. I awoke a little after 5am and decided to meditate on  my 3rd eye. THis led to one of the strangest OBEs I've ever experienced. I found myself floating & no longer aware of my body, and in some weird environment of what I at 1st thought where pea**** feathers. As I focused deeper, I was a little scared because it felt like many eyes looking as me. However, I came to see that I was really seeing unending fractal patterns, which seemed somehow alive...

Anyway, during my train ride home today, I was focused for a while on moving energy through my chakras, when there was an announcement of a 40min delay in the tunnel. I decided to use the opportunity for deep meditation. My body awareness started to slip away, and the OBE vibrations came. The train started moving again before I was fully out, but I left the station with a feeling of decrease body mass, deep focus, & powerful vibrations.

On my walk home, these feelings still with me; I stopped at a restraunt to order takeout. While waiting for my order I focused on a stack of paper menus, and was able to easily create lift on 4 of them. I until today never been able to create lift without leverage! Usually I can press things down, spin, push/pull, and even lift if there is some visible space under an object. I was so in the zone with the OBE vibes, that I had the confidence to apply lift to much heavier plastic counter menus. The weight didn't seem to matter at this point. The state of mind I was in din't really leave room for doubt or struggle, moving these things felt so natural today.

The OBE training has be totally worth pursuing as a connection to PK development! I think the next step for me with OBE, both doing it consistantly everyday, and building a trigger link to my 3rd eye focus on an object I wish to move. When I was lifting the menus, I felt like I weighed about 50 pounds. I normally weigh around 190lbs.

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That definitely sounds strange.

Have you experienced any OBEs, where you have moved around in the material world, seeing everything around you similar to how you would with a body? I'm just curious, because when I have looked around during my OBE-like experiences, stuff has always been messed up - it either looks and feels different from the material world or I can't see the material world at all.

On the other hand, it must be pretty common because my father used to go to work at night, forgetting his body in bed. He had to turn a machine on, but everything fell right through. So he made some kind of a cone with its tip dense enough so that it would push the button. =D Lots of ghost stories and rumors started spreading the next day.

The feeling of weightlessness is pretty common when practicing pk or meditating, but so far I haven't been able to actually lift anything up into the air.



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Wow, I totally identify with your father, especially the part about being out of body without realizing it. It's hapened to me a few times while walking down the street, I would sometimes realize I was a few blocks ahead & snap back to my body. Most of the time I'm in something close to the real world. Only on two occassions have I interacted with entities while in the real world environment. My 1st OBE was when I was 9 years old just after my uncle passed away. I didn't fully grap what was happening at the time but I got to see my uncle:)

Anyway, on the times I find myself in the weird environments; I usually learn something. Also, your family sounds a lot like mine, with most of us being clairvoyant, empathic, & precognitive. The only difference is that PK scares most of my family for sme reason, though not all of them:)

Do you mind me asking what technique you guys use? Unless it's usually spontaneous...

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All I can say here is amazing!

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I am very interested lately in the effects of DMT/Dimethyltryptamine, a psychedelic tryptamine. This is naturally produced by the pineal gland and can be found in many other plants & animals as well. Though, I am not the type of person to rely on drugs for spiritual experience. I believe that in studying DMT, and it's effects we as Psions can learn to access & produce it naturally, at will or as a reflex.

Coincidently, many of the peoples descriptions of DMT trips, sound quite a lot like my recent fractal pattern OBE. Some of these descriprions are also reminiscent of parts of the sleep paralysis experience.

Here is an interesting post I found on the subject of DMT, and it's correlations to PK, & the Hutchison Effect.

http://www.religiousforums.com/forum/general-discussion/13114-psychokinesis-telekinesis-2.html

This is a great little documentary on the subject, there is a book of the same title.

DMT - The Spirit Molecule - 1 of 5






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Cool, my first OBE-like experience was in 2007. I had been practicing pk before that, but without actually knowing anything about it. That's when I found online psionic communities. Psipog was the best result I got with google that described such an experience.

No, it's the same with our family - my father is scared of pk and that's why he doesn't practice it anymore (except for spontaneous events). Mother has been mostly interested in healing. She occasionally practices stuff.

=P Reminds me of good old times, when we were watching Hutchison videos. I even showed them to my physics teacher and she promised to research on it =D.

I don't think producing more of DMT for a longer period of time would be very healthy.


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I don't think that more than natural DMT, is necessary either. I hope that I was clear that I don't have an interest in taking drugs, but I think that paying close attention to ourselves can teach us a lot. You can learn to become aware of & control the minute functions of the body as well as states of consciousness; many yogis & taoists including myself, do it everyday, with bodily functions that most people consider to be involuntary:)

-- Edited by owltwelve on Friday 10th of September 2010 01:19:25 AM

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Powerful meditations

3rd eye - PK, Clairvoyance ect.



So Hum/I am that - Hyper Empathy, PK, OBE ect.



Both will strengthen PK and other powers. They push away the doubting cluttered self & turn the mind into something like a laser. I am training one in the evening, & one in the morning:)


-- Edited by owltwelve on Friday 10th of September 2010 05:34:58 PM

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Mirror Trataka:

Hey guys, I wanted to mention a very intense meditation that I recently started training. I basically face myself in a mirror, & focus my intension on the 3rd eye in the mirror. As I said it can be very intense, and even a little scary, but the benefits are quite powerful. My body immediately bagan to feel lighter, and I started to get the swaying OBE feeling as well as astrong sense of PK forces. It is very helpful though if you have some experience stilling & detatching the mind:)



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The first time I tried it accidentally, it was quite scary and I had my first half-OBE (http://sussch-daweird.blogspot.com/2007/06/first-near-obe.html) afterwards.

However, after that incident, I haven't seen much of a difference between meditating in front of the mirror while looking at my 3rd eye and regular meditation while looking at my 3rd eye from the inside. It might be because of the problem that my focus point is slowly  shifting downwards from the point I first set it. So, it gets shifting down the neck from the 3rd eye point.

There's something weird about this mirror trataka - why should there be something scary about it anyway? Both my father and mother have said that meditating in front of the mirror is dangerous, but why would that be? When practicing it in the dark, I once saw my reflection morph into a devil or something similar (I saw some kind of sharp peaks coming out of through the skin). During other attempts, I have simply started seeing my aura.

Man, I should get back to reading the Kundalini book (http://www.dlshq.org/download/kundalini.htm) again. I still haven't finished it and it has been a while now since the last time I actually practiced any of that. Ah, the previous time I left it for some time because I became afraid of accidentally awakening the Kundalini and screwing up. I read a lot of scary stories about it and thought I should take some thought about it before proceeding without any gurus. While practicing psionics, who knows when the Kundalini would awaken. We just have to be ready for that.



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Hey Sussch, it's really fun reading your blog and finding familiar experiences & thoughts.

My feeling about mirror trataka, is that it dissociates you from your body consciousness in very stark terms. Why should it be scary, especially if one has already experienced any type of bodiless fellings? Since a very large portion of the reality construct is built with the eyes; the ego is literally coming face to face with a kind of disintegration with the self image, & seeing is believing. When people look in the mirror and see a living imposter starring back, that's pretty scary for most. However, I actually agree with you in that I don't believe we should be afraid, and even if we are; we shouldn't be held down by it:)

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I had an interesting OBE/bi-location experience today. My younger brother recieved a Katana as a gift from a military friend. When I drew the sword, I was amazed by the connection I felt. I have trained with weapons since my teenage years, & have of course felt them as extension of my body. However, this was different; I felt an extreme sence of bi-location & biofeedback from the sword, like never before. I felt as though I was able to see, hear, & touch through the sword. It was like the sword was singing; what a powerful and amazing experience:)

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Wow, that's weird. I have yet to experience anything similar.

Perhaps you could somehow trace the connection back in time? I don't have a clue how it would be done, but it has to be possible. Whose sword was it before?

Maybe it's just that you have become more powerful with pk, OBE and that's why you can now feel weapons better?

Edit: Have you seen this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nj1Jytiw8e0? Endless possibilities with the sword being like an extension of your body.

Hmm, I vaguely remember something from a film. I guess a master told his student that he could use anything as a weapon and win a fight when he would feel the object well enough. Can't remember any exactly quotes or film titles..



-- Edited by Sussch on Saturday 9th of October 2010 09:21:46 PM

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Well, my mom's clairvoyance most often manifested as psychometry, especially with places. She could walk into a place and tell you everything about it. Sometimes she would even be transported back to events via spontanious OBE. I never had the knack myself, though I do spontaneously see around corners.

I think your second conlusion might be closer to the truth. It's interesting, because I've read about taoist sword masters & samurai talking about this experience. I thought I had understood & experienced it in the past, but I was wrong. In some ways, since my crown chakra training; many of my earlier energy work experiences, while real, seem like a shadow...

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Some rules can be bent, others can be broken...



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Interesting vid,   

isn't that a line from the Matrix, 

"Some rules can be bent, others can be broken"

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Why yes it is:)

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