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Convection currents and PK under glass


I created a Wet and dry test to try at home to make up your own mind :)
I hope htis is helpful.





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An important convection current control discovery.


-- Edited by Shirak on Sunday 20th of March 2011 09:04:08 AM

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This guy has been leaving comments for 2 days over darryl sloans psi wheel skeptic vid , i lost count how many and seems fairly aggressive to protect his belief system, just a heads up in case he starts it on any of ours,

 

 

he has been commenting on this vid

 



-- Edited by Treasure Hunter on Friday 16th of December 2011 05:43:34 PM

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He just wants attention without personal merit; why allow him or anyone to feed off the sweat of your brow? You work hard on PK for a year or more, so some unknown clown can steal your joy? Please...

Delete & block that fool:)



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I find it funny that people like that don't realize that most of us have grown past caring if they believe or not. I was thrown in a mental hospital as a teenager because of people who thought I was lying,manipulating and crazy, why would I let someone I don't even know bother me?
You're right Owl, don't feed into it.

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biggrin i will Owl if he comes on my channel



-- Edited by Treasure Hunter on Friday 16th of December 2011 07:00:27 PM

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There is nothing wrong with being a skeptic in my personal opinion, how ever if you do not try to prove something on your own you are not a sketpic your closed minded. what i read from this guy is some what understandble how ever he is saying that all the experiemnts hes done does not mean its real. from what im reading is no matter what evidence he finds he will not believe it. for me personaly i have move the psi wheel under glass which is amazing :), i personaly tried psi. now with all honesty being a skeptic is not easy expecaily when the believers dont like you :), the bottom line is i prefer skeptism over down right believeing every thing that is said. i believe in the scietific method, how ever at the same time i am not going to reveal my identity to any one for scietific gain. now i have proven to my self psi is real that OBE and lucid dreams are real and alot of time i stop believing that such amazing things are possible, its also hard when you not liked by alot of your peers and there is a lack of information to keep going. how ever this will not ditur me from going on, i took a 1 month break because i felt i had to and i have gained more power since then which diters alot of what psions say about consisting training. now to rhubis, i find it sad because he is missing out on somthing amazing..... being able to leave you body is the most amazing feeling ever. being able to know what others are thinking and to be able to see energy and be one with you seroundings is amazing. he may judge us but are we not better then that? why judge him (im not saying any one is) let us respect his believe and i know for a fact if i was darryl i would be offended if i was legit (i no he is :) ) but i would get over it eventualy.

i hope one day those who do not believe and label them selves skeptics stop being so self aragant and actualy look at the facts.
the human brain create external energy
the human brain can go into a trance
psychokinesis has been in history
there are people in the scietific community who can do psi
and a skeptic became a beliver - grengoshi (but does not mean i believe every thing :))

thank you have a good holiday

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Being a skeptic is one thing, but not everyone wants to debate.

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Everyone has there own truth gren whatever you experience yourself is your truth i think,   I think the thing which frustrates me is that he is forcing his truth which he has been told onto Daryl quite forcefully in some of those comments, and its ironic that Daryl  is talking about that sort of skeptisim in his video, 

I have the same thing told to me everyday that if telekinesis was real we would have been told by science, so i must be delusional, as there is no scientific evidence. So even though we all  experience pk daily , and its our truth its not valid because its not accepted in the mainstream.

It fascinates me how advanced science is and the funding it gets that PK is on the whole dismissed as slide of the hand tricks



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I didnt really know where to put this, but as we are all looking at this thread i put it here, the later part of the video reminded me of everybody here and what we are doing ,



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@shy I respect that but that does mean every skeptic wants to debate and by a chance one does and offends you just tell them to stop and if they do not then they are a bully. but in all honesty logical thinking should be the top priority in any one who uses scietific method and if they do not use logical thinking they are not staying true to it. weather your a skeptic or hard core believer you can not say your right if you do not take in logical conception.

i also want to say as being a skeptic im not like very much and thats fine because i will not stop my right to freedom of speach how ever if i ever make any one on here feel alienated because of my beliefe then i will hope that i am privately email and explained to why i offended you. i admit that when i see soemthing that i do not believe is true i will out rightly say so and that pisses people off but i also want you to change shoes for a second and put your self in my shoes and see that the way i view stuff is the same way believers belves stuff.

@TH modern science is modern science and not future science. if we new every thing then we would ceased to live :) learning is our right to evolve. with that being said we do not no every thing, i also want to say if some one makes somthing fake they are making the science behind is opsaleate and incorrect. if i personaly believes every thing then im not really learning the truth, thats me how ever.

i find there is a stigma with skeptics on this forum and i can understand why and i hope i can stay around :)



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Going to someones personal channel and attacking them or imposing ones world view, is not being a skeptic; it's being an internet troll.

All thinking people ask questions & make judgements about the nature of reality. If we did not do this we would not survive. Babies have to be scientific about what might cause them to fall; burn themselves, or acquire food & attention. We are all skeptics in that sense. If you describe being a skeptic as an identity label, then you're not talking about skepticism, but a belief system which represents a comfort zone of some kind.

If some one comes to my channel and asks me a question, because they don't understand how PK can be real. Then they are expressing reasonable but interested skepticism. If I sense that the person already has their mind made up, & is projecting hostility toward me; I won't give them the time of day. This has nothing to do with stigma against skeptics. No one gets my respect who hasn't earned it, whatever they believe. I don't owe anyone my time & energy.

I certainly have no obligation to suffer a hostile person in my home. Your youtube channel is a metaphor for your home. The block & delete buttons are the locks on your door. If a person already has their mind made up, or they are hostile to psi concepts, then why are they bothering to comment on my channel? Why should I indulge them? If I went to their channel imposing my views, or took money from vulnerable people, that would be one thing. Most psions are not imposing their beliefs, but sharing experiences with others who are interested.

It basically comes down to live & let live. I will be the judge of my own reality, & what goes on on my youtube page. If someone doesn't believe in PK, I don't go out of my way to bother them with my ideas.

Darryl Sloan, seems to encourage these challenges, so I guess for him it's not as offensive:)



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Gren I think you made a really good comparison to skeptics and bullies. I have actually benefited from the positive skeptic interaction I have had with Darryl Sloan and other Skeptics who are critical thinkers. When an intelligent argument is raised I go Im going to test that. This improves my understanding.

I have respect for critical thinkers however saying that the pseudo skeptic or bully persona types demand and make demands that you prove this or that and I aint no ones trained monkey. There has been a lot of angry people visit our youtube channels and this forum over the years which I admit has put some stigma on skeptics.

Ihave never felt offended from your perspective Gren your contributions here are valid and helpful.

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gren, of course you're always welcome here. :)
I'm just not interested in proving myself to anyone. I honestly don't feel I need to anyway. I do psi to control my poltergeist energy, and to help along my spiritual growth. I guess it might hurt my feelings if you guys didn't believe me because I value this community and the trust we have to share our experiences with one another. I wouldn't tell just anyone about the things I have been through partly because of skeptics who seek out people like us to attack.

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Gren i have nothing against you either, i was just pointing out that he was not constructive skeptic, but instead a very annoying one to be polite, and i have been getting some hassle at work of people saying the same things as him, so it may have got to me slightly more,



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i was not trying to make this about me i wanted to express that as a skeptic i am not a bully. i believe any one is allowed to believe what they want, but for me its been the oppisit experience. i have had believers attack me which is why i always worry about offending people. i am some times arragant and rude i can addmit which is why i always ask if i offended any one. and thank you all for the kind words. i just want it to be pointed out not all skeptics are liek that guy. i never believe any one till i find the facts to disprove my own mind. i even do this at school and it pisses alot of techys off. i just hope one day i can have the ability like all of you guys if i take the time to really try. how ever i see how you guys feel with the people who call them selves "skeptics".

what i believe is not truly the correct strucutre and as long as i no this im open to all commucative beliefes. i try my best to respect all believes but its not always fundementaly sound lol.

now with this guy and most trolls they want attention and need some therapy :) i would also be offended by them but i want the stigma not to be strengthen. :)

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It's just nice to be able to share our psi experiences here in a place where we can all trust one another and don't have to worry about proving ourselves to anyone. :)

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i try to prove to my self way to much.



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My main feeling for this forum, is that my friends are here:)

My feelings about psionic skills, is that training is what matters. I don't much think about beliefs.

You don't have to prove anything man:)



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experience your experience



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