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Dream training.


It has occured to me for some time that this waking conscious reality may really be just her to support the dream reality.

Let me explain myself. When you dream of accumulating objects in a dream upon waking those objects are gone.

Upon passing on from this mortal form we will all experience the same thing. All of the physical things we have accumulated will be gone as though waking from a dream.

What if in point of article the real point of conscious life is to give introspection and an anchor to analyze dream state progression. What if it is simply a place to focus our self in an anchored state so the next dream cycle one can ascend to higher and higher levels of consciousness and construct ability.

I have added over the years to my dream tool kit soul weapons which I can construct when there is a need and the knowledge that I can fly. These parts of knowledge only became available after many sessions of willing this to be so in conscious state.

What if this air cycle of being. I say air cycle as we all start in a water cycle go to an air cycle then move on to an energy cycle losing density and existing on increasingly higher frequency states. What if this cycle of being has all been to train the dream state consciousness to be able to direct create and maintain form.

I must say in a dream state one creates their reality mostly but without the input of anchored bioawareness it is easy to become distracted and hold hypnogogic form in dream state. Once this body is shed I wonder will it be similar? Or will we be locked into a new energy form under new laws. Its just something I have been considering being bed ridden with the flu. Well its off to be again I will keep training with this new understanding. 



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Interesting ideas to consider Shirak! I can say from my experience concerning dream objects, that I am not so sure that they disappear. What I mean by this, is that as I am waking from a dream that I am not quite ready to leave. I can often grab hold of an object with my dream hands, as an anchor to pull myself back into the dream world.

After a great deal of training at being able to achieve deep hypnogogia during meditation; my ability to reach light hypnogogic states even while walking around is much improved.

Something which I have noticed from this, is that to me these worlds & the being s in them seem quite real. What if without labeling things as an OBE, or Lucid Dream, we are seeing things multidimensionally?

There is an exorcize developed by Nick Newport, of the Lucidology 101 series that I found useful for testing the idea of hypnogogic states being portals into other worlds.

He calls the exorcize, accessing non-physical memory. Basically, once you are in a vivid hypnogogic state. You want to put youself in a room were you can rearrange objects which you can come back to later & verify that the objects are where you left them. This requires a complex rearrangement, like pieces on a chess board for instance. You need an object rearrangement that may be too complex for you normal physical short term memory to account for. Another example, would be the arrangement of many files in a set of filling cabinets.

What I have found personally, is that the non-physical object space, behaves like a real storage space. I mean that when I go to retrieve the object locations; it doesn't feel as though I am accessing memory as much as looking at something which hasn't moved since I left it.

Anyway, it's been a very useful training method for me. Along with keeping a dream journal; it has helped to bridge what I believe to be a consciousness gap that most people experience. Though most people experience state specific memory; I think that we can train our minds to bridge/merge states of consciousness:)



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I like that idea I think I will attempt the room and object location test tonight. Btw after writing the above post then having a lap my other laptop short circuited and now will no longer power up.
I think that I also believe these dreams are portols to other dimensional reality. Still kind of out of it from the flu however my fever dreams have been very detailed with meaning.


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O12. When I meditate and I get into a deep trance I find it hard to stay cognativly focused. I mean just trying to focus on my chakra points is very difficult. I can't focus on any thing. How do I control my mind bewtter in these states.

Btw last night I meditated and my arm spazzed up and when it happen I saw a white flash in my eyes. Was that a buron discharge?

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When reaching hypnogogic or dream consciousness, it is common for most people to loose critical thinking prowess. This is one of the reasons I believe that it is also common in even a vivid OBE, for people to behave on impulse during the experience. Many people better achieve OBE goals, by going into the experience with a detailed plan, because it is so easy to become distracted by impulse.

One of the reasons that I find the white skeleton meditation so useful, is because it among other benefits, trains you to maintain critical thinking as you achieve deeper & deeper hypnogogic states.

Concerning the arm spasm, it sounds to me like the hypnogogic jerk that many experience as they are falling into hypnogogia, or an OBE. If you are witnessing white light or any other inner lights, it's a very good sign of meditation progress & pineal gland development.

Keep going:)



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i been doing meditation for about 2 months now and about 20 to 30 mins sometimes 40 to 50 if i lose track... the other day my left shoulder fell asleep..... recently i dont have time to wake and sleep with OBEs so i have not had one which makes me sad bc i find them to be fun..... are they me rly leaving my body....i can not say but regardless they are fun :D. except when i start being akward in them i cant control those impulses -.- lmfao.



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