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A few days ago I realized one of my fears - mediumship. I'm afraid of not being able to recognize me. This is also related to another one of the fears - not feeling in full control while sharing the body.

However, I like to think of human body as a vessel that others could also use. Just like one can become one with a pk target, one can enter a body and gain valuable experience. Also, in my opinion interplanetary, intergalaxial, interuniversal travel would make more sense if one would just acquire a native body at the destination. Transporting physical bodies in scafanders seems too much of a hack or work-around.

What are your opinions, experiences on this subject?



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I am actually reading some books on mediumship now, I downloaded one free from my trial of amazon unlimited today before logging in. I think that it has probably gotten a bad reputation from too many movies, but then what hasn't? Like so many things related to this topic it is really hard to find reliable information on the subject. Like PK I am sure that everyone could develop some level of mediumship even if they didn't show a natural gift for it but I think it is probably a very challenging thing to do because unlike with PK where you know immediately if you did something right based on an objects movement, doing readings can take longer to get validation. I have never actually been to a medium in real life and I think most of them probably are doing readings in the fashion that the woman on Long Island Medium and John Edwards are doing. I would personally love to attend an old fashion session like which were popular at the beginning of the spiritualist movement or a table tipping.

I guess it could be a little spooky actually not knowing what will develop and when. I bet someone out there has tried psychometry only to accidentally start seeing things which would bother most people. I think if I started seeing entities I would be able to adjust over time but if I saw them when I woke up in the middle of the night in my bedroom that would be a different story.

I have collected spirit boards and been interested in them for years but aside from some sessions with friends mostly just for fun, I have never had an experience where outside verifiable information came through. I have recently started a project trying to get that to happen. So far I have only been able to get things to happen via the ideomotor effect though I remain hopeful.

A few days ago I was wondering if the secret to getting spirit boards to truly work as a medium to channel relied on a much deeper form of mediumship like what you are describing Sussch. The problem with that is when doing a session with only one person present and if that person was to slip into a deep trance you wouldn't know what, if anything, was channeled successfully. I use a voice recorder in sessions so that as letters are indicated I don't have to pay attention or make sense of them until the sessions is over and I am reviewing the recording for EVPs.

If I manage to develop channeling as an actual skill so that I am acting as a medium I might have to start using a camera so if I black out or lose track of what happened it will still be documented. As it stands I am very far away from that though and from my limited past reading on books teaching how to develop psychic senses they are mostly about empathy and the like, few have I found that actually talk about let alone instruct one on becoming a vessel to channel.

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To me it seems that's how the universe works. Consciousness is mixing all the time. When you're with friends for a week and then return home, you might notice that you're thinking and behaving differently. Your consciousness is still shared/mixed with friends.

I found that the "bible of the undead" explains very well, how skills work on mediumship. Thanks again, pewep!

In the society, however, people are identified by their bodies and their egos get the credit for everything that has been done while using the body as a medium.

The first time I got to practice playing drums, I enjoyed it a lot and I learned really fast. My mind was blank and I was just focused on the playing. However, when a drummer commented on how fast I'm learning, it all stopped. He brought my attention to myself, whom I couldn't recognize anymore. I was suddenly nervous, my mind was full of thoughts and it just kept getting worse after that.

The same thing with drawing. Sometimes I'm amazed at me drawing and when I realize it, I suddenly stress out. I recognize myself as a jerk who only has problems and rarely gets anything done. I want to overcome this habit.



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Sussch you are probably familiar with this but you can mediate on it. I recently listened to this whole 1 hour long tape of billy meier on meditation. That's where I got this from.

Basically calm down and think about this problem or whatever. You will see that you will automaticall associate emotions/traits/etc. with this. Now just try to see it without emotions. A trick in this can be to see everything this particular as just being completly logical and thus there is no need to add E(nergy)motion....I found this to be very god for getting rid of thoughforms build over time.

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Hmm, thank you for the tips!

I am familiar with Billy Meier's tapes and I guess it's pretty much what I've been doing so far.
Perhaps in order for it to work properly, one needs to constantly have the 3rd eye open.

Edit: Guru yoga also does it.

@Arramu: What's your view on the consciousness mixing and "body for public use"?



-- Edited by Sussch on Sunday 17th of August 2014 09:21:18 AM

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I am not sure if I know what you mean but I am pretty sure consciousnes mixes all the time with others. Like for example a while ago I was walking this long road on my own and I would be in my own thoughts. Then as I would pass by someone I would begin to mix with their level of consciousness like my thoughts and almost my feelings would become similar to theirs. Thus it makes sense why one would not want to be near 'dirty' people (spiritually). It just makes you become like them. If you think about as you stay with friends you do more than just start talking and behaving like them. You drop to their consciousness vibration levels and thus if they are not well grown up they will mess you up too little by little.

What do you mean by body for public use more precisely though? Do you mean being possed at will. My cousin can call spirit at will in her body. With time she learnt to control them so they cannot just do wahtever they want....But some spirits told me that not every body has this ability like I do not...I guess you choose this before birth or something.

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.. With time she learnt to control them so they cannot just do wahtever they want....

That's very cool.

I guess that's more-or-less what I meant. You also highlighted the problem very well. It seems it would have to work so that only spirits with similar mindsets could swap bodies.

In service, I had the problem of being in the same group with 'dirty' people. There was also the rule that the whole group must be alike, they must be on the same vibration level so that everyone would know the others as their own toes. After about a month, I lost my focus and regressed to a similar level as the others. When my thought patterns had descended to their level, the body couldn't handle it anymore and I got pneumonia. That was a pretty depressive experience for me. Perhaps my mistake was in trying to avoid the mixing of consciousness in the first place. If I had done so, I would have been on the same level with everyone else while at the same time being at a considerably higher level. Or perhaps I just lacked concentration on my inner-peace.

A guru probably wouldn't fear any of that. He wouldn't even have to put up any shields because nothing could harm him, while at the same time, his consciousness would be mixed with the whole universe. He might leave his body for a day or two, visit another race on the other side of the universe, use a body there for some more exotic experience, then come back. Or something. Or something else.



-- Edited by Sussch on Sunday 17th of August 2014 08:28:48 PM

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Hehe guru's seem to have fun :) That would require lots of introspection I guess...Although I do not know of any humans being able to take the job of a spirit but I do believe spirits are only living in anothe dimension so they are simply like us. Then it only leaves to logic they we too should be able to do it. A nice alternative would be bi-location with good control over the astral senses. That would be much easier than channeling

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