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Couldn't you get two randoms and mix them together somehow to increase the pool of random numbers generated or something like that? Obviously I'm not that knowledgeable about random seeds. :)

EDIT: Randoms not ransoms



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Thank you for your answer. I think I get the point now.

Concerning LAPDC it's a french unofficial laboratory which studies TK in physical world.

We are leading experiments on psiwheel (specific and common design) trying to understand physical issue for TK.

We also did some psychological studies trying to get the "mind of state" of Tk practisers and absolute beginners.

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Very interesting research :)

Have you been able to measure a difference in the state of mind of a beginner from your more advanced practitioners?



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Actually we noticed that all TKist has is own mental representations about what happens in his mind. Each 's got is own attention faculties, expectations and beliefs. We couldn't find much correlations between all this and TK effects still here. We also tried EEG observation with one subject but it just showed that TK mid state is closed to meditation state. But it doesn't' mean anything because some absolute beginners can also get good TK effects without even know that they were doing TK. In the case only experimenters knew that TK was the point.

We're still searching trying to make new studies about sceptical people and also new EEG monitoring sessions.

 



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I thought about as much. We don't have access to equipment or people to test on here but we've been forming our own theories about what they key components for TK must be.

If you can find correlations or similarities between the groups of people you test we'd love to hear back from you on your research.

As far as we've identified, it seems for the most part, TK simply requires fine concentration ability.

Though if you can find a group of skeptics who aren't practitioners of TK but cause random geists, for instance making random items fall out of the cupboards or lights to flicker when their emotions change etc, those people may be the cornerstone to learning more about the nature of TK. With your lab and equipment and EEG monitoring tools you may be able to find what they do/have that causes TK geists and that might be a waypoint for practitioners to guide their own training towards.

Just speculation :)



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I think people show above average strength in macro telekinesis, tend to have denser biofields, or strong electromagetic static energy fields. As bystanders often feel these fields emanating from such people; I suspect this is probably measurable in various ways:)



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"As far as we've identified, it seems for the most part, TK simply requires fine concentration ability."

That's not what we observed in our study. We asked some people to memorize 20 pictures during a short TK exercise and they had to focus on them. We didn't notice any decreasing of TK effects with them compared to people whom were just asked to focus on mobile.
TK effects might be correlated with a form of brain activities but it hasn't be proved yet. Concentration is a blurred concept, moreover it means that TK has a conscious effect on TK. I don't think it's real because I never met a TKist able to said in advance if he would get some result at a précised time.
There is a big part of random in any paranormal observation, include TK. But what type of random ? This is what we must explain now.

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And concerning "denser biofields, or strong electromagetic static energy fields" noboby found such thing yet.
When mobiles turns it mean that there some energy is leaking out from one place to an other. We actually we are not able to say from where it comes. From Tkist, probably but how precisely and what kind of energy, we are not able to answer.

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I would consider the turning of mobiles to be a minor expression of macro telekinesis, associated with manipulation of available kinetic energy in the environment; hence it's harder to measure the point of origin. When I say above average; I mean people who leverage their own bio-electric fields for telekinesis. Bio-electrical processes happen in the human body, & the heart produces electromagnetic fields:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetocardiography

I'm saying, that some people, whether through training or through heredity produce strong field dynamics from their bodies. What if you are not measuring the right people, nor using the right equipment to measure with? Since modern science has yet to truly entertain telekinesis enough to test it, most people are not looking at the possibility of multiple sources of movement.

I personally classify this remote motion as either yin/yang, or psychokinesis/telekinesis interchangeably. Yin/psychokinesis, being an expression of non-local probability manipulation, where consciousness goes into a sort of quantum superposition to collapse waveforms into particles intentionally. While yang/telekinesis, involves cultivation of bioenergy & awareness to leverage remote effects in the environment. These two types of psychic expression, may also be combined for more powerful effect.

Of course this is a model I relate to based on personal experience & other psions I've witnessed. My point though, is that it may help to have a broader sample of test subjects, at different levels of cultivation:)



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Hi Owltwelve. We tested a lot of different physical hypothesis (electromagnetism, heat, vibration, electrostatic field, etc...) and we weren't able to get same effects than in TK. Moreover since 2012 I never met people whom TK abilities were high enough to move heavy objects or move small objects under command.
I 've heard many theories since I study TK and some of them might be interesting, but to be acceptable (on a scientific way) a theory must be tested.
Do you have some ideas how we could test yours ?
By the way do some of you guys here wish enter a scientific program ?



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I'm not sure what you mean. Are you saying that you tried moving things with mechanically produced fields? Maybe it would be better to test whether there were changes in the body of the subject, or environment when telekinesis is taking place. There have been many studies were changes in electrical skin conductance has been present in telekinetic or other psi phenomena. Changes in room & body temperature have also been measured before. Also, there is more to science than trying to get reality to conform to preconceived theories. You could work in the opposite direction; observing of phenomena, looking for patterns, & trying to understand what your dealing with.

In my own case, I've been a celibate yogi for a few years, which has had a strong effect on my psi related experiences. I would say my strongest & most constantly producible skill involves psychokinetically resonating with & effecting the nervous systems of other people. I would be most interested in studying this, as it's caused many problems in my life. Most of my strongest psychokinetic effects happen in association with changes in my body temperature related to orgasmic bliss states in my body which happen spontaneously, & which I can intentionally build up with concentration. I say it's caused be problems, because of unintentional resonance with the nervous systems of others(I can also cause resonance on purpose too). Though, I often wonder if it's a measurable field effect because larger objects than I can normally move telekinetically, tend to move spontaneously with this is happening.

Anyway, it's hard to explain my whole experience in a nutshell, & there are yogis much stronger than me, but I would be willing to talk about it in more detail. Are you guys in France? I live in the US. Another interesting thing to measure, might be the effects of geomagnetic storms on telekinesis. I seem to feel these storms as pressure in my body, as though solar flares are hitting me directly, but it tends to also increase telekinesis & other psi phenomena.

More on the phenomena I experience:

http://biologyofkundalini.com/article.php?story=Bliss

http://biologyofkundalini.com/article.php?story=TheKundaliniGland

http://biologyofkundalini.com/article.php?story=Bodywork

http://biologyofkundalini.com/article.php?story=CosmicInfluences



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@D Jamet, The thing that almost many critics of this discipline miss is that pk is the manipulation of available energy in a system by use of intent and connection. You have listed 4 different measurable effects of energy.

The ability to measure those energy types does not discount the interaction of intent and connection in focusing them towards a goal. Shifting the reference frame to measurable forces being manipulated gives us personal insight into our own way to connect with and manipulate said forces.
Many of the practitioners on this forum from what I have read have dedicated their lives to understanding their own internal software development towards that connection and manipulation of energy types. It is such a subjective experience.

Science is a very useful discipline. It is however not the only discipline which makes discoveries. It is however a discipline which takes credit for discoveries made by other paths of disciplines.

If you take some time to review this forum you would see that many users here already undertake experimentation with published results. This forum provides users an opportunity to publish results and where possible other users use those results in their own subjective expression of pk to try and duplicate the technique.

Pulsing, Stasis, spin, lift, OBE, telepathy,push em field transference are all techniques other users have been able to duplicate on this forum through their own experimentation. While we are not so formalized as the Society of Psychical Research (Who's work I respect) I must say that this group is dedicated to their internal development and have been publishing consistently for almost a decade.




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@owltwelve

I'm not sure what you mean.

Sorry for my bad English. ;)

Are you saying that you tried moving things with mechanically produced fields?

Yes. We tried acoustic wave, heat glove, etc... That was the first step to be able to say what TK is not. 

Maybe it would be better to test whether there were changes in the body of the subject, or environment when telekinesis is taking place. There have been many studies were changes in electrical skin conductance has been present in telekinetic or other psi phenomena. Changes in room & body temperature have also been measured before.

Greta ! I'd like to know these studies. Can you send me the name of authors ?

Also, there is more to science than trying to get reality to conform to preconceived theories. You could work in the opposite direction; observing of phenomena, looking for patterns, & trying to understand what your dealing with.

We did both and we still do. We didn't find any real good pattern yet. It would be great if we could. Did you find one ?

In my own case, I've been a celibate yogi for a few years, which has had a strong effect on my psi related experiences.

Yeah. We also notice that stronger effects are generally produced by people who lives alone or almost, in a monk way of life.

I would say my strongest & most constantly producible skill involves psychokinetically resonating with & effecting the nervous systems of other people. I would be most interested in studying this, as it's caused many problems in my life. Most of my strongest psychokinetic effects happen in association with changes in my body temperature related to orgasmic bliss states in my body which happen spontaneously, & which I can intentionally build up with concentration. I say it's caused be problems, because of unintentional resonance with the nervous systems of others(I can also cause resonance on purpose too). Though, I often wonder if it's a measurable field effect because larger objects than I can normally move telekinetically, tend to move spontaneously with this is happening.

We worked for a while with practiser of martial art based on communication between bodies. It was quite fascinating. The leader (which is also a French searcher in physic) was able to prevent TKist getting some effects for a while. But he wasn't interesting by producing effects himself. If you practise TK it could be nice to work together. Because we had contact with London yogis but they decline invitation.

Anyway, it's hard to explain my whole experience in a nutshell, & there are yogis much stronger than me, but I would be willing to talk about it in more detail. Are you guys in France? I live in the US. Another interesting thing to measure, might be the effects of geomagnetic storms on telekinesis. I seem to feel these storms as pressure in my body, as though solar flares are hitting me directly, but it tends to also increase telekinesis & other psi phenomena.

More on the phenomena I experience:

One of our members describes such type of feelings, and he discovered he was doing a kundalini wake up also. I can put both of you on contact if you wish. Moreover traditional religions from India and china (related in the last book of Dan Radin) talk about Siddhis. Do you know about Siddhis ?



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The thing that almost many critics of this discipline miss is that pk is the manipulation of available energy in a system by use of intent and connection. You have listed 4 different measurable effects of energy.

Well. I agree with that our work is to show this in a scientific way.

The ability to measure those energy types does not discount the interaction of intent and connection in focusing them towards a goal. Shifting the reference frame to measurable forces being manipulated gives us personal insight into our own way to connect with and manipulate said forces.

That why we did also studies with absolute beginners. These people didn't know they were doing TK, only experimenters did. One was me and the second was a sceptical searcher. We notices a small difference between her results and mine. That's why we're trying to make a new study with a lot of sceptical people by now. But it's very very difficult to involve such people in such study. :)


Many of the practitioners on this forum from what I have read have dedicated their lives to understanding their own internal software development towards that connection and manipulation of energy types. It is such a subjective experience.

That very interesting for us and woulde be helpful working with this type of particular people. Would it be possible to contact them ?

Science is a very useful discipline. It is however not the only discipline which makes discoveries. It is however a discipline which takes credit for discoveries made by other paths of disciplines.

I have no problem with this. But science is the best way to get a consensus about phenomena (when it's possible ;))

If you take some time to review this forum you would see that many users here already undertake experimentation with published results. This forum provides users an opportunity to publish results and where possible other users use those results in their own subjective expression of pk to try and duplicate the technique.

My English is not good enough to do this. But if some people here are interested helping us to explain TK it'd would be nice to know them.

Pulsing, Stasis, spin, lift, OBE, telepathy,push em field transference are all techniques other users have been able to duplicate on this forum through their own experimentation. While we are not so formalized as the Society of Psychical Research (Who's work I respect) I must say that this group is dedicated to their internal development and have been publishing consistently for almost a decade.

That's great ! Let work together then ! :)



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Yes, I know about siddhis & I would say that I've been kundalini active for about 6 years or so. I've also read Dean Radin's, book Supernormal. I am a tantric yogi, meaning I have experience with Taoist & Buddhist tantra, at the high end of the intermediate level I guess. In other words, there are yogis further along than me, but I experience consistent phenomena.

Anyway, I will take some time to compile psi studies to link to you:)



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Thank you very much owtwelve. :) That could be very useful for us.

If you agree I would like to send you a couple of Hemispherical mobiles we use in our experiment. So you can try your TK on it.

What do you think ?

 

 

 



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Awesome man! i cant wait to give it a try when its complete. Now that will be true Virtualkinesis thar! winkbiggrin



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