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What is this energy?


Spent this Christmas researching the subject and would like some opinions.

 

I began around September and managed to move objects far away, do remote viewing in the past and future and make people have thoughts and emotions... so it is minimally safe to say that this stuff (for lack of a better word) transcends space, time and carries information.

 

It can do mechanical work alright, but I would hesitate to call it "energy" in such a sense, as that would imply that it is a byproduct of physical matter, when actually, physical matter (at least from the atomic level up) might very well be the one that is byproduct of this stuff.

 

Pervading everything and interacting with consciousness seem to be two orher characteristics almost as if consciousness was a filter that shaped physicality

 

Would anyone say that during psychokinesis what is happening is that the person is manipulating those aspects that bring the physical world into existence so that a particular part, such as something moving, is created according to the newly changed parameters of the creation of the physical world?

 

This seems pretth sound, since so many other have already escalated quantum experiments to moleculelevel where matter behaves one way when observed and another when not observed and even entanglement at a distance (remote action, for short) exists in objects big enough to be seen by the naked eye

 

Thoughts please



-- Edited by bidama on Sunday 8th of January 2017 04:47:50 AM

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Consciousness is fundamental; all of reality is you yourself. The sense of separation, is an ego construct. You are the vast infinite ocean; omniscient, omnipresent, omnipotent:)



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bidama wrote:
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I began around September and managed to move objects far away, do remote viewing in the past and future and make people have thoughts and emotions... so it is minimally safe to say that this stuff (for lack of a better word) transcends space, time and carries information.

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It can do mechanical work alright, but I would hesitate to call it "energy" in such a sense, as that would imply that it is a byproduct of physical matter, when actually, physical matter (at least from the atomic level up) might very well be the one that is byproduct of this stuff.

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Would anyone say that during psychokinesis what is happening is that the person is manipulating those aspects that bring the physical world into existence so that a particular part, such as something moving, is created according to the newly changed parameters of the creation of the physical world?

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I definitely agree with owltwelve on the consciousness being fundamental. All experiences point to that.

However, I've found it difficult to arrive at that conclusion with only logic and rational thinking. Some time ago I analyzed finite, infinite, atomic and infinitely divisible universes with the assumption that all disturbances must be counterbalanced. Here's what I found:

  1. Currently the scientific models taught in school seem to assume that we are in a finite atomic universe, without any overlap with other universes. The Bell tests were claimed to have proven that there were no hidden variables in quantum mechanics. Basically, it was assumed that there is no external influence on the base structure of this universe.
  2. Following Zeno's dichotomy paradox, a finite atomic universe could only exist within another universe that maintains its structure and enables information transfer from one atomic unit (Planck's length, Planck's time, etc.) to another.
  3. Following the balance assumption, a finite and atomic universe would be very fragile since its self-balancing abilities are very limited. An infinite and infinitely divisible universe, on the other hand, has no issues with self-balancing (in space, time or both simultaneously).

With all the (accepted) science being based on logic and rational thinking, it seems to have formed from a finite atomic universe. It cannot properly comprehend infinitude. Moreover, all the measurement technology has sprung from science and assumes a finite atomic universe. Since the properties of an infinite universe cannot be measured with this technology, science is constantly reinforcing its own assumptions.

While it is possible to produce physical effects with psychic phenomena, the phenomena itself doesn't seem to be physical. Defying basic laws of physics, psychic phenomena seem to originate from an infinite universe that permeates (shines through) this finite atomic universe. Space, time, speed of light are properties of a finite atomic universe where they can be measured. In the infinite universe, "everything postulates consciousness," as Max Planck used to say. Basically, "this energy" boils down to consciousness.

I like this interpretation because it makes it possible to say "everyone's right" - it all depends on the type of the universe they're referencing. But this doesn't mean any of what I wrote here is true =D. Just an attempt at finding common ground between the two worlds.



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It may be that dreams have an role in this. Consciousness and reality are in my opinion no different. This happens to be the halfway house of sorts where everything must be sent through. When I move objects its like i suspend the object in my head but not where i have to think of it. Kinda feels like a muscle that is used in these also but it cant be read by instruments, or anything of that nature. It just happens, but only if we are aware it can and we need or want it. Seems human intent and reality are similar, or like everything is a dream that doesn't need to have reason unless one from it needs so.

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Consciousness being fundamental implies it does not arise from matter... in other words, consciousness being fundamental implies it is not a chemical byproduct of the brain.

Sooooo, in practical terms, in case a brain is, for instance, terminated, consciousness should remain... since it is, after all, fundamental.

As a quick side note, let me ask what you both your opinion about something... let's say tomorrow you kick the bucket... what do you reckon it would happen? After all, some people around here are certainly going around with the egg thingy in the tummy similar to millennial old Daoist practice of the energetic egg for the birth of the immortal embryo.

But anyways, continuing with the previous line of thoughts... if one looks at things from such perspective things suddenly become crystal clear as that explains quite a lot about this type of "energy" we're working with here...

but above all, it makes this whole endless plethora of different psychokinetic specializations that we're doing here, such as telepathy, remote viewing, teleportation, phasing, cryo/electro/bio/pyro kinesis and much more waaaaay simpler to understand and to deal with in practice.

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