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Understanding Empathy


I lifted this from Wiki I thought it interesting.

Contrasting empathy with other phenomena

Empathy is distinct from sympathy, pity, emotional contagion, and telepathy. Sympathy is the feeling of compassion for another, the wish to see them better off or happier. Pity is feeling that another is in trouble and in need of help as they cannot fix their problems themselves, often descibed as "feeling sorry" for someone. Emotional contagion is when a person (especially an infant or a member of a mob) imitatively 'catches' the emotions that others are showing without necessarily recognizing this is happening (Hatfield et al 1994). Telepathy is not a psychological phenomenon, but a supposedly paranormal phenomenon, whereby emotions or other mental states can be read directly, without needing to infer, or perceive expressive clues about the other person.

Pity is, "Things are bad for you, you seem as though you need help."
Sympathy is, "I'm sorry for your sadness, I wish to help."
Emotional Contagion is, "You feel sad and now I feel sad."
Empathy is, "I recognize how you feel."
Apathy is, "I don't care how you feel. "
Telepathy is, "I read your sadness without you expressing it to me in any normal way."
Schadenfreude is Things are bad for you and I feel good about that.



-- Edited by Shirak at 23:21, 2008-08-28

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of most interest was the emotional contagen. Many times I have seen mob mentality (Concerts, festivals, fireworks) However I have been fine until at a funeral I see a group of people crying. Is there certain levels of emotion that can be projected to affect others? Well according to this its called an emotional contagen. Interesting.

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Emotional Contagion is, "You feel sad and now I feel sad."
Empathy is, "I recognize how you feel."

Ok, so you said if the illness was energy based it would deal with empathy. Does that mean that one person has to understand how the other person feels, and then they start to feel the same way? How exactly does it work?

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If you know many empaths they will tell you they try and avoid cities and large crowds because it can become overwhelming.  I yawn you yawn even if you don't see me yawn, sympathetic nervous system. Emotional contagens work on humanities herd mentality a group in the crowd start to stamped and be fearfull the emotion becomes contagious.
I have counciled some empaths close to me to learn to develop emotional buffers so that the experience of being in a crowded place does not overwhelm them. It is no easy thing to do when you are an emathicly sensitive psion many people tend to try and ignore their gift which is sad and they let their ego create a mask that covers what they deep down are sensing.
If you are doing a telepathic link you are using a quantum entanglement principle to overide spacetime and transfer the information there is potential for different information to be transferred through the link that I have not the information to comment on yet.

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Luckily, I can stand my own in a crowd (i'm not nearly as sensitive as some empaths i've heard of, such as those who cannot be in a crows without going crazy). However, I don't like to be in crowded area or with a lot of people, especially when drinking is involved- For me it's like each person has a set amount of space they take up in the room (mentally/psychichly) and when I get close to their "field" I can pick up things on how they are feeling (sometimes...it comes and goes, but i'm working on it). So, imagine alot of people in a cramped space with different smelling strong perfumes (the perfumes represent the 'field' of that person), everyones perfume is screaming "Smell me!" and it's a constant battle to get to your nose. You get whifs of different perfumes and it becomes nauseating because of the cinstant change. Emotions are pretty stong and everyone has different emotion at one time. And for some reason, i've noticed, if your with people who have been drinking the feeling is a bit stronger. (My theory- you know how people are a little crazy when they're drunk, they are usually more candid because alcohol effects the brain. When a person is sober, they tend to shield their emotions [without realizing it] and since that thinkning is released with each sip, it's easier to pick up.)

I don't think i've ever gotten sick from bad energy before, however, I remember the posts on Psychic Vampires who feed on energy and the syptoms they caused, so I can believe people sharing bad energy and having it's own effect. So I wonder, if we have shared an illness in this manner will regular drugs and precsriptions work on the said illness- or , like recovering from a psychic vampire attack, wait for the energy to replenish itself.

This also makes me wonder- can empathy be switched. Making others feel what you feel? (or is that telepathy without words... just one way).

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I know that I have a delete policy for any negative emails I get from people some people really do try and take your time/energy I just don't give them my time as soon as they are disrespectful I leave them to live with their unhappy self.

I have heard that husbands get real sympathy/labour pains when their wives give birth so I believe that it is proven you can share or experience the pain of others physically that you are connected to or share a connection with. Perhaps you can share the pain effects of an illness telepathically but I don't think that a virus or allergy could make the jump..

Psychosomatic? Hmm I have various examples however I believe you can remove such side effects using meditation and mind over matter if they ever did occur.

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I was born an empath and an interesting thing to note. I use my empathic ability to read people. not just there emotions, but i let it expand beyond that to the point that i can determine what people are thinking, how they will react to different questions or situations. it is almost like looking past a persons shell. I can sometimes annoys people, because i can predict almost everything they are going to do or say. like we don't even have to talk i can say something to them and before they can tell me their answer i shout it out. i noticed too that it is easier to do it around people i am around a lot, which is because i share a stronger connection with them. just thought i would add my input.

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I like what you said jonwolfen on people getting annoyed lol. Im constantly finding myself asking people questions and knowing the answer because i made them think of it! my girlfriend hides her emotions and thoughts very deep as a person, so it makes her annoyed when i ask her whats up and she says she doesnt know and then i reel it off as if i never had to ask. Of course there is the physical reading aspect of these occurences but i would definitely argue that everyone is capable of 'hearing' everyone elses thoughts emotions. not all at the same time lol. I personally think we are all one consiousness experiencing the world through individual subjective consiousness. being that there is 'no thing' to what we call a human being but energy there is no physical boundary between your brains muttering and mine, just the illusion of it. what a bummer eh? id rather be a mushroom :)

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another note id say the way i gained simple telepathy is with simple dissolution of the barriers the ego put there that stop you through the means of gaining knowledge and turning it into insight. then bam, ask me to name the person imagined in your head and i could do it. Its a very personal progression, not just 10 rules to remember, but once you realize to a certain extent the nature of exsistence throught simple observation and analysis, you cant fail but start encountering the REAL world. learning telepathy isnt about learning to hear, its about learning how to stop youself from covering your ears.

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I think that empathy is the key to everything, at least every psi skill I've experienced. It is also a major factor in learning in general. I want to learn a skill, so I mirror what it feels like for another to perform that skill. If I want to move something, I'm most successful when I become the object. When I want to effect the probability of a large scale event. I go into the feeling place of the event. I mean that I connect empathically with the desired outcome. How can a group of occurances be conscious enough for empathy to work? It's weird, but I think that everything is conscious from the dense solids to the most abstract. It maybe like a dream where there is only one consciousness:)

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True that. I agree with that perspective completely.

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about 3 weeks ago my family and i were on our way to a bahama style restaurant to celebrate my dad's birthday.

my brother, sister, and aunt Rose where sitting in the back seats of the van.

i asked them jovially something like, "who's up for some telepathy practice" and their response was pretty much like no thanks, some laughs, and a little picking fun at me

I decided to try and sort of just really know what my brother was thinking about at the time, and as i really started to do it it was no longer a state of just trying

then, when i really sort of just knew i had something true i said, "Where you thinking about a dark place with dimm lights?"

when he responded he seemed at least somewhat genuinely surprised and even said something along the lines of, "that's seriously almost kind of scary. and you weren't even there so it's like, how did you know that"

and he laughed some but then told me in a way that almost seemed serious, "yeah but seriously, stay out of my head. lol, that was actually kind of scary" but he knew i had no malicious intentions or anything like that. me and him are like almost best friends (at least he's pretty much been my best friend for most of my life...lol) so he just kind of laughed it off and kind of thought it was cool for a go like that

about a week or 2 before that i tried it with my little sister after I picked her up from her sort of psychologist Dr. Her name is Ms. Cathy I think.

I started this one off just sort of jovially asking her as well "hey, how about some mind reading practice or something" it wasn't maliciously or fear based intended at all

she was like, "no thanks, it don't like that type of stuff. that stuff's weird". she'd seen one of the little paper wheel vids i had on yt and she'd seen me attempting some stuff around the house.

I was driving her back home at the time. I decided to just give it a real go and if i really just knew something i felt she wouldn't want being said outloud I decided I wouldn't say it out loud. However, if it was something harmless like going to the mall or to get something to eat or something I decided I'd ask her if that was what she was thinking about (or i guess really, paying attention to) at the time

so I gave it a real go and decided I got to something really true. I asked her "Where you thinking about french fries just now?"

She seemed just a little surprised when she responded. Not very. She said something along the lines of, "I was actually just thinking about going to Wendies."

But I'm not sure if it was french fries specifically.

 

However, later on that day when I gave it a real go with my brother I asked him if he was cool with playing a, I guess it could be called a telepathy game, or something where we guessed what each other was thinking at that time.

We each allowed three chances to name one specific thought intended for the game at a time and we narrowed it down further to not being able to ask questions or anything but just naming the thought intended for the game directly without any clues or anything.

Only just once of of like maybe 50 attempts did I actually get notably close when I told him something like, "I'm seeing a spaceship, in space." 

He said something like that was actually close, but that he was thinking of a spaceship blasting off but not already being in space just yet.

The one I saw was also like, red and not the classical sort of Nasa style that most people are familiar with, whereas I'd assume his image of a spaceship blasting off was probably more like the more so widely shown Nasa style ships.



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I really enjoyed those accounts, thanks for taking the time to share them.

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