i told one of my long time friends on entropia universe my experiments with TK, he started laughing at me and making jokes o TS with other people. it intrigues me how people act towards those who want to experiment with something so taboo. he claimed he was the ultimate skeptic and i said to him no a true sketpic is some one who sees if its true or not, not some one who labels it untrue. what bothers me is some one can lose so much respect to you for attempting something.
i truly don't no if TK is true, atm im eating my words with the training im putting my self through.
Shirak i don't no if ur vids are real or you can accomplish what you can ( no disrespect bro none at all) but i wanna say this. from what i have seen my self the feelings i bin getting the power i feel its hard to stop now. TK is a drug for me now and i must keep going till i find the truth. if there is something to this then i will not let my self be put down like that again. i see know the pain you all must go through... but i see why you struggle on so you can teach it to others and one day be recangised for your ability or to help people see the power the human body has and to stop believing only the rich have it etc etc.
to all i mean no disrespect but i cant believe any one. but i am going to proof my self this is real or fake with the right effort and will. so one day if i come across something this skeptical again maybe i can see it through different eyes
sincerely Grengoshi!!!
p.s i truly hope none of you are miss pleased by my use of the forum, i hope im not abusing it any way. it is only i have no other form of communcation to discus this subject with any one.
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In many ways I've never been happier in my life than I've felt since I started training. Though, no one has ridiculed me; I feel very abandoned by the people I love the most, after sharing my practice. I've speculated about these subjects with them for years, but now that it's real none of them speak to me(very lonely). I try to forgive them because the philosophical implications of PK/Psi are huge. Beyong moving an object, PK challenges the rules of existance and meanings of life for people. These skills can lead one to look into the mirror and feel responsible for everything that happens in their life. Everyday that I practice; the world seems less solid. I explained to my girlfriend recently about the idea of everything being a sigularity, "I am not just connected to the psi_wheel; I am the psi_wheel." She didn't understand until I suggested that every object in her dreams a night are actually instances of her own consciousness. For me these philosophical concepts are not just platitudes from some book or mosastary, but living reality. I miss the closeness of my loved ones, but my eyes are open and I can't pretend that they aren't. I just have to be patient with those that don't see what I see:)
Row, row, row the boat, Gently down the stream, Merrily merrily merrily merrily, Life is but a dream...
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It is good that you can speak to your girlfriend about this. I was a little nervous when I first spoke to mine about it but now she is really supportive while some of my family just smile and nod politely or make fun because of its implications. (The once that poke fun have now seen things and they don't do that anymore) I think it definitely is as you say because of the implications it represents it. It is hard for some people to challenge that accepted reality jsut yet ;)
Just as it was hard for our grandparents to understand computers/cell phones when they started gaining popularity. New Tech always takes time to evolve into our consciousness.
My gf knows what I can do and is a constant suport for me to show her a new tchnique. I have been banned from practicing on the bedroom fan as we have had 3 malfunction and stop working this year (Accumulative effect of pk focus on electronics?)
I do feel sometimes detached from others as I cannot explain this exciting world to them without them thinking it a little odd. This forum and youtube have allowed me to connect with other Psionic researchers and share the ideas that would otherwise have made this a lonely journey.
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ive always felt a out cast so digging into this field inst really odd for me. i barley have any friends and majority of my family are either white trash Christians or Arabic Christians (all them are thick headed). every person in school could never under stand me so in reality (for what it ake it for) this is a perfect way to detached my self even more from people who are to scared to leave there box (which im very guilty of because i still cant face people in general).
the psi wheel moves for me a little its very hard to make it go a direction but wen im able its like you got to move it with you mind not command it to move its so difficult to explain its like you got to make not force it only way to explain that. it seems with fires out side i can manipulate the fire although most the time my family thinks its just the flame getting stronger but its odd for me that the flame magically gets bigger or moves a certain way when i want it to....
the bottom line is Ive kept my words and i will further this training bc.......its our next evolutionary state in my theory.....
i guess the best thing is my mom does support, she has seen stuff in her life to back me up. but it would be nice to have ''friends'' who can back me up but they just make jokes behind my back.
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It's nice that you have the support of your mom:) Also, it's cool when you discover your natural affinity to a certain element. Fire is not as easy for me as air & water. When I started with the psi_wheel I practiced many hours a day like 8-10hrs. Some people told me that this was too much, but I think the line where it becomes over training is subjective, since I give my visual art those kinds of hours. Repetition, is an important key. Once I had speed, I focused on direction; Shirak has a video about putting colors or numbers on the wheel, to develope control. After that, I began pulling my hands away, then gradually increasing the distance. I had anxiety at 1st, because I ws afraid the ability would disappear. Though, I learned that challenging myself & changing the apparatus is actually making me be better faster, even when I don't feel successful. Remember your psi_wheel moved! That's so cool, you have superpowers dude! You only have to keep training & challenging yourself:) It might sound, weird but making yourself a cool avatar might help you to get into the PK mindset well; kind of like an alter ego:)
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I've always been an outcast. I had maybe 1 or 2 friends at any given time at school. I've always felt separated from the mainstream flow of things, and happily detached from popularity contests. I was never really social to begin with though, they may be due to me being the odd duck who was interested in weird and paranormal things.
Eventually, i told my friends, well, friend at the time, and thankfully, he accepted it, even encouraged me a little. When i told my mother, i received the same treatment, luckily.
I have been fortunate with my friends, who have been supportive and encouraging. Nevertheless, there are very few i would actually tell in person, as it is a highly controversial topic. Instead i often speak of the subject as if it was separate from me, then judge their reaction to it, allowing me to gauge the response given should i mention i practice this art.
Sometimes i feel crowded and shadowed. Skeptics have a lot more go-to source to put down TK, and a fairly underhanded tactic of "Well, if TK is real, then why don't you move that chair over there?!". Of course i wouldn't be able to. Even if i could, the shear pressure of the moment would seriously distract me, likely causing problems in TK actually being achieved in the moment.
People fear what they don't understand, and what would fundamentally change their outlook on the world around them, as well uproot their lifestyle. I'm still battling this.
All i can say is, people do seem to be growing an awareness for the own potential, and eventually it will be more widely accepted.
But for now i generally keep it to myself, besides sharing my thoughts and feelings among you all who share in this interest. Here i can feel a bit more safe to express them, and support and encouragement are important factors in physical, mental and spiritual growth. It's important to find this support, where ever you can. This is one of the many reason why the internet is so awesome!
Hmm... i probably should have mentioned somewhere that i have a bad habit of writing long posts. Once i start, i kind of, can't stop :P My bad.
Always remember to have fun :)
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Dude, we like long posts here; keep em coming! Having enjoyed some of your personal blog, I'm sure your writings here will be thought provoking as well:) I feel like this is an environment were we can all become strong!
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"Worry about self delusion, after you have succeeded." -Owltwelve
When I think back on it, it has been more or less the same for me too. Though, my family has become more open to the paranormal lately. Watching magic shows, weird videos, meditation tips, making jokes related to psionics and so on with them seems to have helped a little. =) Fortunately, there are more and more films + games coming out that feature pk.
Besides this forum, I still don't have many friends whom I can fully share my experiences with. Some of them listen to it, nod and then discard it, seriously believing that they aren't able to do it. The rest of them are simply skeptical to all this even when they have had similar experiences themselves.
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A stable-minded person will neither hug nor hate the world, he will take things as they come.
My mom is probably the one who got me into things like TK. She encourages me, but she doesn't like to talk about it. Not because she doesn't believe, but she says she knows nothing about it, despite me showing her the occasional Shirak and John Chang vid.
As for my friend, he just plain doesn't like to talk about it. I'm not sure if i should classify him as a friend anymore. Not because of TK or anything, but because, once he found a GF, i didn't exist anymore. It's been almost a year, and i've gotten to talk to him twice. Once because i bumped into him at the store, and another when he was bored and decided to come over. He never calls, and when i call him, the call only lasts a few secs to maybe a minute.
Before he found a GF we where like brothers for around 6 years, (I can't remember how long). But yeah, basically its people online that i get to talk to about it. I pester Shirak a lot, and i like how Owltwelve explains things. So fluent.
Anyways, as for games, i did want to try out that mindflex game, that looked fun. But i'm content with WoW at the moment.
I'm generally a happy and peaceful person... when i'm not depressed or angry :P
Hehe have fun everyone. Sorry for dumping... :(
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Wow, you are very blessed to have a mom that you can share your experience with even if it's only a little bit. My mother was an extremely talented Psion. Though, some of the skills frightened her, so we didn't get to discuss everything. We mostly talked about precognition/retrocognition & psychometry. She was a very strong telepath as well, & I discovered from her journals after she passed away, that she was a master Astral Projector. My closest friend & brothers know about me doing PK, but they don't want to talk about it. I think that they accept the reality of it, but it makes them uncomfortable I think. Perhaps your friend will come around though; you have been friends for a long time:)
I think that like dreams, MMOs, are a very powerful way to deprogram the reality constructs that we were raised with. I play City of Heroes for a long time, & began to have telepathic experiences with the people I played with after a while.
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"Worry about self delusion, after you have succeeded." -Owltwelve
There was a study done not to long about about the impact of video games on dreams. Because of the constant 3 person perspective, they found gamers often have more control over their dreams then those who don't play them. I found that interesting, and it fits with what you said. Also, if nothing else, it inspires the imagination and creativity.
Also, something weird happened with my mom last night, and it is directly related to you, Owl.
I was telling her how you liked my blog, ('cause i was tickled by the comment), and she sat up and said the weirdest thing. She flatout said, "He's psychic". I was like, "What?" She repeated, "He's psychic". I replied, "It's a Telekinesis Forum. They're all psychic there". "I know, but he's different", she added. "How so?", I inquired. "I don't know. He just is..." she finished.
When i asked her how she came to this conclusion, she said it just came to her, and she didn't know why. But she told me to ask you about it. I playfully compared it to going to a 'Star Wars Convention' and asking if anyone was a fan of George Lucas.
I'm really starting to believe in this Synchronicity thing. It keeps producing 'coincidences' that i can't, or maybe don't want to, play down. They're becoming bigger too.
So what do you think?
Have fun :)
-- Edited by Nox on Friday 12th of November 2010 06:06:14 PM
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I agree, in my opinion, owltwelve is different from people I have met on previous pk related forums. I think it's because he knows and deeply believes in his pk.
I feel like I owe owltwelve a lot. It was a true dream come true, when he stumbled on my youtube account and helped with motivation. Thanks to him, my way of looking at things has changed a lot in such a short time compared to my previous life.
Edit: However, we can probably all get to the point of believing in our pk this deeply. We can all become superheros like in computer games.
-- Edited by Sussch on Friday 12th of November 2010 06:51:59 PM
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A stable-minded person will neither hug nor hate the world, he will take things as they come.
Hehe, ya, i love my mom, and she is really a cool, loving person. She inspires me in so many ways.
It sounds like owl helped you like shirak helped me. I feel as if i owe Shirak a lot. I'm trying to think of ways to pay him back for the kindness and encouragement he has provided me. As well as him putting up with my repetitive, obnoxious questions.
He is a good Teacher, and from what i've read of owl here, Owl, really is good at explaining things. I am very impressed by both Shirak and Owl.
Their good teachers, i'm just a poor student :P
All i can think of to repay those who help me is trying to help them in their research if i can ever reach a level to actually add construction to the topic.
As for other PK related forums, was that learn-telekinesis-training by chance? I was there, psychicvampire.org as well.
Either way, have fun :)
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You have already added construction to the topics by joining and having such a nice blog.
Yeah, they are really good teachers.
No, you're actually an excellent student.
I have a tendency to believe the same - that I'm a bad student because of all kind of reasons. However, I recognize that's exactly how I used to think years ago, when I thought that thinking low of myself was the only way to succeed. Actually I had gotten it all backwards..
When you consider all thoughts as constructs, then what you would like to do is thinking well of yourself your progress. It's like we are building our tomorrow self with todays thoughts.
The other forums were alittleweird, psionacademy.tk, vsociety, psionicsonline. Actually, I haven't quite blended into the last 2 yet and maybe that's the reason.
I like the way you end your posts, because I also have the tendency to take things too seriously and neglect the fun part and find myself losing motivation quick.
Have fun .
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A stable-minded person will neither hug nor hate the world, he will take things as they come.
I started added smiley faces to my posts and "Have fun" to lighten the mood. As i always feel you should take what ever is said wit ha grain of salt, and try to remember to have fun. I've always believe in the journey over the destination, despite the fact i seem to strive for the end, or to see the progress.
I remember one time (This is a bit unrelated) i was on the forums some where, and i was depressed, and i made sure i sound so. Someone replied saying "He's fishing for compliments", and i began to realize, he was right. I will find myself in depressed moods, go somewhere, and act all depressed, so someone can come along and pick me up, so i can feel better. I have tried to shake this habit, as i feel it is unhealthy and rude. But for some reason or another, i can't, but sometimes i do feel like i just want a pick me up. This is why i watch a lot of comedy stuff, and sometimes my posts sound a bit depressing.
After shirak turned me onto a video title Fear of Enlightenment, it made things more clear. I'm the type of person who wants to feel and live the experience, not just think it.
When i practice tk, i want to live the experience. When i can't feel it, i can't believe it.
i actually just watched a few of Owltwelves stasis field videos. He does a good job, and i found myself wishing i could do that. Same as Shirak vortex video, which was awesome.
But, it was almost like i could feel it happening through the screen. But i can't seem to get TK to work, which is frustrating.
But, i wont start on any "poor little me", or at least try not to. I have been at it for over 2 years, i'm not likely to quit any time soon.
Anyways, hehe,
Have fun :)
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Yeah, when I first saw owltwelve's videos, I felt it through the screen as well. Watching pk videos and feeling them has helped me progress a lot faster than usual.
One could also pick a random non-pk video and start practicing pk on it - we did it when a couple of skeptics asked me to show them something. The results didn't prove pk for them, but it didn't disprove it either - it turned out funny and looked as if the author of the video were fulfilling our wishes.. (clicky).
I'm sure you'll get TK working again pretty soon.
Have fun =)
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A stable-minded person will neither hug nor hate the world, he will take things as they come.
I think a good thing about this forum is the sense of it dosn't matter what you post, whatever your thoughts are its a free place to put them and no-one judges you. My whole life I have always put myself down too, and worried about everything to the point of becoming obsessed with the worry. Once you realise that to be truly free it dosn't matter what anyone thinks, it dosn't matter if you dont conform to culture or society. Freedom is to express yourself how you want not how everybody thinks you should be.
I think a good thing about this forum is the sense of it dosn't matter what you post, whatever your thoughts are its a free place to put them and no-one judges you. My whole life I have always put myself down too, and worried about everything to the point of becoming obsessed with the worry. Once you realise that to be truly free it dosn't matter what anyone thinks, it dosn't matter if you dont conform to culture or society. Freedom is to express yourself how you want not how everybody thinks you should be.
This is true. When it comes to a free place to express my thoughts in an environment in which i feel safe. But, at the same time, i do care about my friends opinions on any matter, more then some random guy on the street, (No offense to the random guy). It's likea catch 22. The less i know everyone here, the easier it would be to walk away should something go wrong. Also, i was raised to be nice to others, so i like to be cautious and curtious to others when i first meet them, as to not offend them or step on any toes by accident.
After i get to know them though, i feel more comfortable talking about deeper things, maybe pulling a few jokes, and just sitting back and talking casually. But i also cherish the friendship more, and tend to still tread carefully as to not upset a balance in which i enjoy. Also, because of this, should i speak my mind about a subject that is contrary to the opinion of my friend, and they take it agressively and retaliate. The wound inflicted would go much deeper then the random guy. So i try to avoid the matter all together.
As for the putting myself down part. It sounds like all of us here did that. As i mentioned in one of my blog posts, i believe the mind works off repitition until a certain pattern has been implemented to the point in which it becomes self-perpetuating. It likely started when people at school or someone else bullied us enough till we began to believe them, and then we continued that cylce all on our own, long after the bully had left the picture.
But, through all of others, and maybe ourselves, pushing us away, eventually it pushed us right outside the entire flow of society. We found ourselves quite alienated, and looking upon a whole new world. Full of wonder and possibilities and fatansy come to life. We got to experience the world that was shut out by society, because we where shoved out too. And we came screaming back, saying "Look, look! There is something more. Something beyond!". But, they can't see it, because they haven't been outside the veil, because they have no reason to be outside.
They say, "What? What are you looking at? What are you pointing at? There's nothing there. It's just your imagination". We can't get them to see past it, and they wont follow us through it, but they demand we prove this other side of the veil. So we try to show them. Not just that it exists, but that they can do it too. We try to bring pieces of the otherside to them, and show them. Yet they wont accept it, and maybe afraid of it being true, and what they means for the bubble they have been living in.
So we eventually stop trying, and resign to those around us, who have crossed over and seen more, and believe in more. Because with others like us, we wont be ridiculed, or worse, used as a martyr to show the world how crazy someone gets when they stray from this, so called portective bubble.
But, there is an upside. The number of people crossing the veil is increasing... and soon, the Hundredth Monkey will tip the scale, and the bubble will pop!
But, with every upside, there is also a downside...
Sorry for the long and somewhat dramatic post, i kind of got into a character when i wrote that. Kind of like what i did when i was writing my book, hehe.
Ok,
Have fun everyone.
-- Edited by Nox on Friday 12th of November 2010 09:58:11 PM
-- Edited by Nox on Friday 12th of November 2010 09:59:07 PM
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