It's interesting; I suspect the the same brain regions may be active for PK, & other psi skills. As someone who can also have an OBE at will; I agree with much of what is said. Though, I would say that the experience is more than a hallucinatory shift in attention. Since I had developed psychokinesis, ahead of OBE skill, I noticed that I can effect objects & people while out of body. I can even do this backward & forward in time. For example if, I watch a prerecorded video, I can effect people & objects in the video, regardless of the video's age. I even have videos of people noticing my presence in the room. Also, I don't have to fully leave the physical body either. This is why I started this thread, because I notice that psi skills seem to me to be the same skill on a scale relative to attention & awareness. Psychokinesis, & telepathy, both seem like an OBE to me, without a full exit:)
I am doing some interesting experiments with a close friend who is quadriplegic, but who is almost as skilled as me with OBE's & PK. He like me is able to consciously exit the body from the waking state, & manifest a healthy four limbed energy body, & experience pleasure of movement again. My energy body has a much higher density, which I attribute to more time in practice.
I suspect that my etheric form, like the construct/tulpas, I make, may have a measurable tangibility as a kind of plasmic matter. I haven't perfected my concentration yet, I can see that one day I will be able to materialize solid matter from thin air.
Anyway, it's nice to see the phenomenon being studied, even with the qualifiers, & lack of cross disciplinary sharing of info:)
-- Edited by owltwelve on Sunday 9th of March 2014 12:27:24 PM
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Darryl still surprises me with his disappointment about the paranormal.
But then again, dad has had a lot of OBE and he is certain that a person without a physical brain wouldn't be able to perform psychokinesis .. that while in OBE, it must somehow be his connection to the brain of his body that allows him to perform PK.
I'm pretty sure that one doesn't have to have a physical body to perform PK. But then again, I can't really prove / disprove it, not even to myself .. it's just a hunch. While in standby / sleep mode, the brain might still be functional enough so that the sensation of "brain booting up" might not indicate much either.
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I think that Darryl, unfortunately projects his own limitations onto everyone else. I still respect him even though I disagree with many of his assertions.
I wrote my ideas on the nature of OBEs & psi in general in the comments for his video:)
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