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Is it even possible to run out of psi/energy?


During the past 3 days I've been training more often than I usually have for the past month or so.

2 days ago I experienced sort of a new height or pike in pk prowess.

However, the day after I noticed that I felt sort of tired and burnt out. This showed in the results I got with some practice in a psi wheel session (which should've been fairly easy to move after the prowess I seemed to have from the previous days).

So I decided to set my sleeping patterns back into order yesterday and got a pretty good long night's sleep. I can even recall some sort of dreams.

But this morning, I found that it was still more difficult than I felt it should've been to get the psi wheel moving.

Once I finally got it to move it also felt like the feelings that got it to move were slightly less intuitive and sort of "thoughtless automatic" as they were not even 3 days prior.

I still managed to make it move, even from about 3 feet away by using some methods though. Satisfaction just wasn't as quickly achieved as it was just a few days before.

So does anyone here think I might have burned myself out or something? I felt physically tired yesterday, but today physically I felt for the most part just fine.

I'd appreciate some sort of tried and tested opinions/answers.

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I have symptoms of this very often and it's very discouraging. Especially a lot within this week, as I've started working and work 10 hours a day, I am drained of energy when I am home. 

I believe PSI and ENERGY/CHI/KI/CHAKRA are two slightly different things though go hand in hand. Psi are the tools within us that controls the Energy, whatever term you wish to use to call it.

That being said, I personally don't think you can run out of Psi. Though you could certainly be drained of energy. Though I'm sure with some rest, meditation and healthy eating you'll be able to regenerate that lack of energy. You may have a lack of psi control on some days as well which could be the other factor that will display similar symptoms. The reasons behind this could generally be your mindset, concentration and focus, belief and expectation of the psychic action to progress, etc.

That can be fixed with the same methods used to regenerate energy, though meditating, going for a walk outside, perhaps listening to certain musics, whitenoise and binaural beats, and other things which could adjust your mind's focus will also help settle your psi back to gear.

I don't think it's possible to permanently run out of energy or establish permanent blockages in your psi unless there happens to be an extremely traumatizing experience which may effect your physical, mental and or spiritual bodies.


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For me I attribute this to my state of mind or perspective. The "energy" is always there and when I see it clearly it is effortless to use ie it does not tire me. Perhaps there are cycles of consciousness that the body uses and learning ot switch into pk mindset is the true discipline.

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I agree totally with Shirak; it's a matter of perspective I experience that I am expressing PK or psi, whether I consciously intend to or not. If the psi_wheel spins, or doesn't spin; I am the cause of either result. Consciousness in entropy creates enough pressure for a big bang to happen. So, as with annoying thoughts during meditation; don't fight or invalidate the non-moving psi_wheel. If the psi_wheel is sitting still, try deciding that this is your intention, see if you can make it even more still than it already is. See what happens then; you may be blown away:)

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I think it has a lot to do with how you are feeling 'emotionally'. My psi wheel was in a different world today, paying no attention to my commands ^__^

So, after 5 minutes I switched to push/pull training, and discovered an interesting new mind technique.

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Was the mind technique helpful for push pull?

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Hey Shirakwink. Yes, the new mind technique was helpful to me, in that I was successful in knocking down the standing piece of foil a couple of times. The last few months I've made no progress with PUSH. Sometimes it even feels like I'm going backwards. Anyway, last night I developed a new technique where by I would draw energy in a circular curving motion from the space in front of me, and I would imagine this energy going up through (under) my chin, inside my head, and then pushing it out of my forehead while directing it at the target object. The emphasis was on the large circular motion. I was thinking along the lines that nature loves circles & curves, so maybe PK ability also responds better to circular energy techniques.

Whether I'll be able to apply it successfully again in my next PUSH training session is a different story...ha ha.

P.S. I also experiemnted with a psychic burst technique....building up the psychic energy inside my mind, then unleashing it in a single radial burst 360 degrees around me, hoping to effect everything in its path (similar to a nuclear bomb). Can't really comment on that one yet because need more practice. Peace. 

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From a Taoist perspective, chi definately does move in spirals. Also, your 360 busrst technique sound really great! There is a topic in the specializations section, called construction site, which I started for thebenefit of everyone sharing constructs. I really believe we all grow faster by standing on on anothers shoulders:)

By the way, welcome to the forum!

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Thanks owltwelve. Much appreciated smile

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Chris the way you describe this technique sounds very natural. In the technique you describe establishing a flow of energy. Remember energy must flow so what you program and put out you must also take in. It sounds as though your higherself has shown you a way to cyle energy. The Throat energy point is specifically designed to regulate chi. When you read up on it this will become clear and the third eye point you describe has always felt as though it emits and receives for me. Very nice. Im going to try this technique tonight.

-- Edited by Shirak on Friday 7th of January 2011 01:34:33 AM

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@Chris Zanetti

Hey wow. Very glad to see you join the forum here man.

I appreciate the vids and personal insights you've shared with people via YT so far. You were easily one of my biggest inspirations/comforts while I was really just beggining to get into pk smile.

Also ur blackdragon website's lookin cool so far. can't wait to see how you plan to cooperate do with it!

 

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Thanks Shirak. Very interesting. I'm not as familiar with the chakra points as I should be. The last couple of days I've been playing around with different energy techniques, in the hopes of stumbling over one that actually works in a reliable way. It can be quite frustrating when you have a good session one day, then absolutely zero happens the next day...ha ha.

Well, today I tried a new technique for PUSH. It seems, according to legend, that  there are 3 powerful points/centres in the body. The dantien, the heart, and the mind/brain. So I experimented with combining all 3 together in the heart area, by bringing up the energy in the dantien up into the heart, and lowering my mind/awareness down into my heart, so that all 3 centres were concentrated into one point, then using the heart energy to transport the mind & chi energy towards the object. Well, it was successful for the first 3 or 4 times, and I managed to knock over the piece of foil.

What made me try this is because I have read in numerous places that the heart is extraordinarily powerful,  generating a strong electromagnet field (much stronger than the brain), and so I thought I could maybe use that power to transport my intention & chi power (whatever little amount of chi I may have) to the target object and PUSH it over.

Okay, I think I've said enough alreadybiggrin. Let me know if you get any good results Shirak. Peace & respect to all of you :)

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Thanks FridgeNatious, it means a lot to me to hear that from yousmile. I was super-happy to find this forum after following the link on Shirak's Youtube page. It really is a pleasure & an honour to be in the company of such open-minded psions such as yourselves. I'm here to learn & grow, and if I can help others, then that's even better.
Yep, my new website/blog is coming along slowly, and I plan to post daily reports there after every PK session.biggrin

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I agree with fridge about your vids, Ive always found the how to do telekinesis vid with the sacral nirvana song hugely motivational  ( no limitations) 

I have found a sort of push technique but you have to move your arms around a bit, as if you are pulling energy in with one are and pushing it out with the other.
I think by practicing this its developing my chi and also opening the chakra points in my hands and it has developed a flow of energy that I can feel as tingling and heat.
I use folded  standing  A4 paper and when the chi hits it, it will quite often spin round on the spot b4 it falls , or slide along the table.
I also visualise pulling the paper and use a pulling motion with the whole body, which pulls the paper towards me,   I have never been able to knock it over just by looking at it, but found it alot easier to move around a bit to gather the energy and project it back out.   This technique really knocks the feet out from underneath standing foil.
I think the more you flow with your arms the more chi you can gather  and project out.
Hope this helps a bit

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Hey Treasure Hunter. Thanks for your kind words. Yeah, that's such a great song. I find it very powerful & uplifting, and the words/lyrics are relative to PK right?biggrin

What you wrote is very interesting. I will have to research about chakra points on the hands. I really need to dedicate time to learning about the chakra system & opening my chakra's, and also finding ways to cultivate chi.

It's interesting that you should mention about moving your arms around to get the chi flowing, because, as we all know, Nina Kulagina performed PK by moving the hands very fast aroud the object. Maybe she was unconsciously generating chi too. I've also seen other Russians use that technique successfully. I tried it on a ping pong ball, but nothing happened.....yetsmile

Okay Treasure Hunter, you've motivated my to practice PK Push on a big A4 piece of paper. I'll try this evening & see what happens. ^__^


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I agree I always found better flow after doing Taichi form.

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