Psychokinesis

I am sure it is fake. Watch his video titled "How Your Influence Betrays You by Daff" He moves what looks like a chopstick in the middle of the video and based on the movement pattern it is defiantly connected to a string at one end. On the video above notice at 0:37 how he picks it up in an odd way with both hands and a few seconds after that where he is showing the cup and turning it very fast. If you watch on the back side of the cup the side that was facing his body there are two neon dots that are a green or yellow color. That does not look like part of the cup pattern to me and if I had to guess it might have been a piece of tape or something sticky he used to attach a string or thread. If that was the case he could have pulled it with his foot under the table which would also account for the movement coming straight to him.

Also I think it is suspicious he has no subs to other people in this community on YouTube. Learning to move a mug like that would take some time and I think it is funny he has not subs to anyone that does TK videos. I would have given him a chance but I saw that clip with the chopstick and it is defiantly connected to a string. Also later in the same video where he moves the green cup you can see his knee move each time the cup does and I see him straining a lot. I tend to strain when I am attempting to move something but I know it does nothing for the process it is just a bad habit but most people doing street magic put on the show of straining to move an object to make the demonstration more believable and the way he is acting when he moves the green cup at the end had me raising an eyebrow.

One last thing is if you notice the color of the two greenish dots on the above video that he tries to keep out of the cameras view they are almost the same color as the green cup he moves in the other video. I don't think that is a coincidence as I bet he was using that kind of tape or whatever on the green cup first because it matches better. I could be wrong about it but I would guess it is fake.

-- Edited by BlissfulOasis on Friday 7th of October 2011 02:43:57 PM

Well, Bliss said everything already. I scanned the video through After effects too. There were indeed a lot of signs of fake-ness. Plus, a person who has done some psychokinesis, has a larger energy field. He's was quite normal.
You should go work as a detective Bliss, you got good awareness. :)

I am not saying that it is impossible to move things that big or larger but he was suspicious. He has those clips jumbled in with a bunch of others where he isn't doing anything but fixing his hair or putting on sunglasses and like I said I would have really given him a chance had I not seen that chopstick clip.

I am not sure that video needs debunking. I mean at least the guy above has other videos related to this kind of thing which the first guy did not. I saw his flame pulsing video a few weeks ago and he has a video where he splits the flame.

 

I don't know what it looks like when you try to split a flame because at most I can only make a flame pulse 2-3 times a session. O12 has a video where he is shaping a flame but I don't remember him getting the same result as the above video. The only way I know of for that guy to have set the tissue on fire was a candle below that was out of the video shot but I could not see a light of any kind and if you notice it catches goes out and the explodes into flame. I do not see how using a candle would have made the entire thing burst into flame so fast. If that video is a fake then he has fooled me because I belive him. Also the guys blog though I can not read it but it seems to be about psychic stuff. I think if he was faking that would have been a lot of extra trouble to go through to get people to belive him.

Good point I was just putting my thoughts in about the debunking. I still think it is a good idea to keep a skeptical eye out there though.

another video to debunk

 

That is one way to put them to use I guess. I still think fake videos could be detrimental in a way because if they fake something and others don't know they are faking it they could lead people in the wrong directing when asked for advice. There are a few well known fakes on YouTube that are giving out advice and people are taking it and getting disappointed because it is not working for them. I guess it could be said that it is because it is so hard to teach but I think someone who has some experience would be better at starting someone in the right direction than a street magician.

I remember reading one comment under one of the fake videos where the guy said he had been practicing for months doing what the guy on the video said to do and had no results. It is things like that that frustrate me when it comes to people making fake videos. Someone could use them for learning purposes like you said but it could still cause problems for someone who is just starting out. I guess commenting or acknowledging them is bringing more fuel to their fire as you say so I don't really know if there is anything to be done about them.

One of the greatest lessons that I have learned from PK, has been personal responsibility on every level. For one thing, no one can do the training for you. I mean, there are people I admire when it comes to PK, but my training, is my training, no matter what anyone else says or thinks. Let's face it, any video on youtube could be faked. I saw some videos when I started, which I didn't know were fake or not.

It was me who moved a psi_wheel, the 1st time it budged, not a video I watched. I made a choice to believe in a world where PK exists. That had nothing to do with what anyone told me; I made that choice. Once the psi_wheel moved, a can of worms opened up. I suddenly in very concrete terms, had questions about the nature of reality & our ability to effect it. Are we manifesting moment by moment? If so; if I can manifest things like PK events, am I also responsible for the things in my life that I don't like? Lot's of questions come up with PK, but every one of the questions I've had ultimately lead back to myself.

I think the value of PK videos, is that they can help inspire the courage to do what it is we wanted to do anyway. I recall before seeing Shirak's videos, people telling me on other forums that the psi_wheel was the limit for PK. I rejected these notions with only my instincts & desire as opposing evidence. When I 1st encountered his pinwheel stasis videos, I bought a pinwheel for myself, & started training until I got it to stop. I hadn't met him or asked him for advice yet, but it was enough for me to see a video which demonstrated the concept. Neither videos nor the words of others can take the steps for you. We may all become friends; share ideas & experiences but I think that PK is kind of an inside job. Having the courage of ones convictions, is more potent the the words or videos of another any day of the week:)

-- Edited by owltwelve on Sunday 9th of October 2011 11:45:26 PM

All i am concerned with really is making progress myself and incouraging others, you can find what works yourself, and who knows if you watch a fake vid and think its real and try duplicating it , you might actually do it !