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Object Levitation


 

Hello guys,

Recently, I found this video clip from a guy from Philippine. 

I am curious if anyone in the forum could levitate objects like him?

Do you have any theory/idea of how it works?

I suppose that he manipulates energy in his hands and then merges the energy with the object energy, then he just moves the merged energy. 

Thank you!

 


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Hi,

I suppose that he manipulates energy in his hands and then merges the energy with the object energy, then he just moves the merged energy.

I also think that he produces a thick field of psi on his palm, and then manipulates the field.
Maybe he manipulates the pen directly as well (both the field and the pen).

I haven't learned to levitate objects. I have only reduced the weight of objects and become a bit floaty myself.



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Sussch,

Do you mean that you can levitate yourself a lirttle bit?

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I've had occasions when I think I've floated a bit, yes.

Back in the years when I practised psychokinesis more-or-less regularly, descending stairs became strange for me, for suddenly it had become rather slow (gravity no longer worked very well).
This was fun and all, until I fell on ice during the winter and broke my laptop. In those days, I also practised light-stepping on snow.

Once while walking through a corridor at work. I didn't feel the feet touching the floor. At some point I started to wonder about it, and verified that I could feel stepping on the floor just fine.
Back then I roamed the great indoors, wearing socks only.

While laying still in bed, I sometimes practised becoming lighter, and heard the mattress springs making a sound as if less pressure was applied. I don't think I ever lifted out of bed, though.



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Thank you very much for your reply. It really motivates me. Hope I will achieve that someday. Do you have any plan to practice the levitation more?

I also found a document about Human Levitation

ro.ecu.edu.au/cgi/viewcontent.cgi

Hope it helps!



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Cool, thank you for sharing it!

Maybe sometime in the future.
I've found it quite demotivating that the general populace shows no interest in psychokinesis, spiritualism and the like.



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I think he is using magicians string to do this. One of the first things I thought when I saw the above video was wondering if he had done the same with playing cards because street magic tricks will often using playing cards in the tutorials when they sell the trick. After checking his channel I found a video where he is levitating a playing card. He is also very careful to avoid passing his hand over a specific area and the wobble is consistent with someone who is using the street magic trick where they use thin string and magicians wax to stick it to objects. There is also a more or less consistent distance from his top hand to the object.

I think videos like this could be use for inspirational purposes but I think it would be more useful to find real PK videos to use for that.

The problem is the lack of really advanced legitimate PK videos. Some people find the human ego gets in the way and after progressing to a certain point stop displaying it to avoid the ego getting in the way of further development.

I have seen some videos of levitation that I believe were legit PK but they were trying to lift a coin. It didn't manage to float but they were able to lift the edge up several times. Levitation seems to be really challenging compared to other types of movement even for really advanced people here.

I would like to think of it as something that is not too far out of reach though as people who jest objects by accident will sometimes have objects thrown around without any effort or intention of that happening.

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I have only experienced spontaneous levitation of myself & objects. It has happened many times, but it's always out of my conscious control. It's happened enough times that I have a sense of how to reproduce the the previous conditions & events, but objects start moving in my house without my control. Also, my energy seems to negatively effect people around me. The twoo things I've been working on over the last couple of years to make it more workable, are solitary meditation retreats, & integrating my subconscious. It's clear to me that my conscious PK, is less than 1%, of the power my subconscious has already displayed. This is likely true for most of us.

A good thing to consider when cultivating stronger PK force, is your level of impulse control. If you haven't trained your mind & emotions; more power can be quite a nightmare. It's also good to be clear with yourself about the mind powers you actually want & why. Some powers may fulfill hat "why", more than others.

In terms of levitation methods; there are a few, shared by yogis over the centuries, & all depend on skilled concentration unless a person is naturally gifted.

1. Concentration on weightlessness, or something effectively weightless until your nervous system merges with the sensation as a hallucination level body memory. Make yourself or objects weightless. This results in floating levitation but not exactly propulsion.

2. The earth Kasina, concentration on the solidity of earth until your nervous system merges with the sensation of that solidity as a hallucination level body memory. Essentially recreate solid platforms or walls anywhere in space. Walk on air basically, but not exactly flying. If you master this concentration skill, you can also dive through earth as though it were water.

3. Energy field concentration & cultivation. Cultivate Yang chi within your dan tien for 3 months; merge that energy with the energy of the environment. Concentrate on the merged energies as the become more dense & stable over time. Perform strong PK feats; levitation included. The sensations of these energies within the body become so intense that concentration on them is much easier than the above methods, but the process is physically much more difficult.

Expect to spend at least 3 months concentrating full time on a given method to form enough stability to master the skill. Associated powers may manifest way before you get to 3 months, but it may not be stable depending on your talent.

If you want any mind power though; pick a concentration subject associated with that power & devote at least 3 months full time concentration. You basically want to summon or turn off five sensory, hallucination level visualizations on command which are very bright & indistinguishable from physical reality. If you can do this you can do anything.

A good thing to practice, is a psi_ball real & solid enough to yourself that it's solidity becomes strong enough to displace fluids or refract light. For example, if you place that ball in flowing smoke or a running stream of water; are those fluids displaced? If you have experience with stasis field practice; you have already done this to an extent. The next step is to make the psi_ball or field construct you are working with more stable & solid. This requires prolonged concentration on the construct itself for it's own sake. The difference being, that normally people use the construct as a fleeting thoughtform to be used for the a specific PK purpose. While I'm essentrially talking about nurturing the construct like a child over an extended time so that it becomes solid matter.

Some concentration tips:

1. Make use of all your sense memories, not just sight.

2. Every time you notice yourself getting distracted from your concentration subject; gently bring attention back.

3. Concentration has momentum. It's like pushing a boulder over the crest of a hill, & watching it roll down on it's own.

Hope some of what I've said is helpful:)



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Waaaaaaa... 3 months gone and this is the only interesting thread around.

 


Let's make it more interesting.

6879 wrote:
 

curious if anyone in the forum could levitate objects like him?


 

Cotton, dandelions ,small feathers... a newbie can do it.

 

You can wobble a psiwheel up and down you can keep a dandelion in the air for 30min, eventually becoming efortless, even boring.

 

Found that extremely light stuff jerkingly wonders very erratically accelerating and stopping in random directions reflecting the level of attention/concentration and as mass increases so does smoother movement in mid-air.

 

Just a personal observation.

 

Would make a vid but too busy with other things with new year resolutions for this year of 2020 a bit behind schedule on pandemic's account hehe. bummer.

 

But nothing like floating bottles and cotton buds or even your body though.

 

That said, my way is keeping a constant push field above the finger tips and moving it up towards the ceiling and down without moving the hand, keyword being CONSTANT.

 

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any theory/idea of how it works?

suppose that he manipulates energy in his hands and then merges the energy with the object energy, then he just moves the merged energy.


 

From research you're on the right track as others report creating a field engulfing the object and "sucking" out the weight programming into their own hands leaving the object in a weightless field and then moving it around as a means of giving the first steps.

 

Dunno, will have to look better into it. Perhaps a key factor would also be focusing on the entire object rather than just a surface or a corner as when that happens sometimes objects bypass the build up of momentum when going from rest to movement... and rather than smooth acceleration it just shoots from complete stop to full speed as if someone had kicked it. It's a characteristic that when modified might be adapted for gravity.

 

As for the body Owl and others pretty much spilled the beans already point the right direction far better, but additionally have heard of techniwues related ti pushing from the root chakra as well as expanding the aura above the head the size of a hot air balloon to a point the body just lifts along when buoyancy is achieved.

 

All interesting techniques to look into.

 

Check this guy out, btw:

 

 

Open field, middle of nowhere, drone's aerial point of view, ground level cameras and just chillin there in mid air... only thing missing is a cup of coffee and a plate of cookies.

 

Yeah, green screen, smoke, mirrors, strings, ghosts and magnets... heard that before.

 

If you have 100 euro to spare this guys book might be worth it as the workshop is 500 (without Finnish interpreter ), even though his method is the first one above, if not check out ernst veter courses but they're a tad expensive.

 

Need to put this stuff in 2021's new year resolutions hehe.

 

Think in other vids he even floats around at ground level and combines it with jumping around... if you ever read "the man who could fly" 

 

The man who could flu

 

or the "life of milarepa", which chronicles the path of a criminal into enlightenment during the span of a single lifetime, in tibetan plateaus monks would just give ginormous strides in a mix of jumping and floating... or maybe it wasn't that book, maybe it was "Magic and mystery in tibet"... dunno, have to check. Anyways they're all useful.

 

So, yeah, hope that helps.

 



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Awesome!
I've enjoyed his streams and videos a lot.

https://www.pscp.tv/LevitationOnline

There used to be a page on Ernst Veter system as well.
At least the advertisement youtube video clips have remained.
You can find more of these from the channel.





One of Jyoti Ram's performances where he also levitates a glass / crystal ball.




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Thanks for the link to the stream.

Sussch wrote:

One of Jyoti Ram's performances where he also levitates a glass / crystal ball.


 

Never seen that before. Ahhhh... yeahhhh....

 

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Hello guys,

I just wanna let you know that I have bought the course of Ernst Veter 1 month ago - the whole course is $1200. Here are my observations

 

1/ The training course is delivered through Youtube. He has different videos for Russian speakers and English speakers. The videos only show a picture of him wearing a mask in the background and you listen to his words. I find it hard to understand his lessons because of his English and no actual demonstration video or examples. I take the screenshot for you guys.

 

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2/ The content of his training videos are 

1) Waves & Superpowers 

2a) Chakras part 1 

2b) Chakras part 2 

3)Daily Routine & Nutrition 

4)Working with a human field  

5a) Introduction Superpowers Part1 

5b) Introduction Superpowers Part2 

6) Telekinesis Technics 

7) Levitation full course  

His main idea is about - Alpha State, Concentration, Visualization which is, in fact, no different from what we have discussed here. 

3/ Very hard to ask the questions and receive the answers because of different timezones. He answers my questions but his answers are very short. I ask him whether he has any other English students or online community to discuss but he doesn't answer the question. 

4/ As far as I know, there are missing parts of the training videos in English compared to the Russian version. I am asking him for Russian version videos.

5/ I wish I could share the videos with you guys so I can discuss and learn more from you guys because you have the experience but I have to respect his copyright materials. 

6/ Personally, I believe in his method but I find it hard to understand his methods because of the language barrier. Maybe, I will re-listen.

7/ I have focused on meditation with an aim to raise to 4th Jhanas. So far, my progress stucks for both meditation and telekinesis and honestly, I haven't practiced anything from Ernst Veter lessons because as far as I see, meditation is an important foundation

 
 



-- Edited by 6879 on Sunday 26th of July 2020 11:37:36 PM

 


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Just out of curiosity, the sections where he talks about the alpha state are Technique based? Or did he recommend binaural beats?

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Hello,

1/ He just mentioned the alpha state is the state where we can create waves/energy and transfer it to the object.

2/ I have read much about the brain waves before his videos. Personally, I think it is somehow 50/50 correct. Why? Because, if Alpha State is a state of light meditation then most of the videos of demonstrators, the way they use their hands to transfer the energy is a little bit more "stress" than the Alpha State. Furthermore, there are researches of monks who show peak of gamma waves in deep meditation or healing. Because I am no expert here so I do not want to conclude anything. Personally, I think, by developing our concentration to 4th Jhanas, we might see better result - I am not sure.

 


-- Edited by 6879 on Monday 27th of July 2020 01:09:17 AM

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Thank you very much owltwelve and utoo for your detailed answers!

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6879, we are all learning together my friend. I think that it's common for psi feats to occur without the agent of the event fully understanding the mechanics. One of the benefits of this forum, is shared information because knowledge is cumulative; we all have pieces of the puzzle as well as blind spots.

For your own use, especially since you've paid so much for the course; you should try to get the Russian, parts parts translated. If you want to share your own experiences afterward, many would appreciate it, but if not I would understand.

Some tips on meditation, to get further.

1. Decide on a concentration object/subject & stick to it.

2. Sit to practice for t least 45min intervals more than once per day. If you can arrange a retreat for yourself; you may accomplish years worth of experience in a shorter time though.

3. When resting attention on the object; gently bring attention back each time the mind wanders.

4. remain still while you sit, but also relaxed.

5. No matter what thoughts, sensations, or phenomena you experience; gently bring attention back to the object when you sotice that you are noticing these things. Only the object of concentration matters.

6. You can get better with meditation; it's not rocket science. You just need to make it a priority & practice consistently.

Concerning levitation; again be sure it's what you are motivated for, then go for it or don't. It's just a skill, & doesn't require a pedestal. The mind powers that I've aquired, developed because they're the ones I really wanted & I practice the basically 24/7, just like a musician, or an athlete:)



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6879 wrote:
 
 
 

Bought the course of Ernst (...) So far, my progress stucks (...) not want to conclude anything (...) developing our concentration to 4th Jhanas, we might see better result - I am not sure


 Schweeeet

 

But hey, 3 years seems to be the norm. Even optimistically speaking doubt Ernst Veter would give an estimation for anything less than 1 year.

 

1 year (leaning towards 3) is somewhat expected.

 

Iranian Dariush fom telekinesisuni.com and telekinesis.center might be more fluent in English with less expensive courses but still gotta put in the hours at the end of the day to levitate stuff like some of his students do.

 

Personally would learn Russian if necessary een if it was just for this skill.

 

But hey, if English is a big deal you just ask Mark Mauvais, he's French but speaks perfect English... he's still kinda active on youtube and instagram...

 

Try to get a hold of him while you can because it's much faster to learn from people than to learn from books.

 

Here's a clip with a bus ticket going up and down in he hand (skip sraight to the 6min mark) like in the original vid you posted:

 

 

btw, after checking out your journal posted a vid for you in the comments



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That picture of the energy circuit going out of the top of the head and into the feet matches an exercise in Advanced Focus 10 on the Hemi-sync cd from Wave 1 on the Gateway Experience where you are creating a resonant energy balloon. Cool parallel.

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BlissfulOasis wrote:

energy circuit going out of the top of the head and into the feet matches an exercise in Advanced Focus 10 on the Hemi-sync cd from Wave 1


 

Monotone voice on speakers   be like:

 

Do the energy conversion box, followed by resonant tuning and energy balloon, stating the affirmations and lets meet at focus 10...

 

Tape, after tape, after tape.

 

But hey,

  1. Nonphysical friends
  2. Nonverbal communication
  3. Energy food
  4. Remote viewing
  5. Lift off

are rather cool exercises despite being of the opinion A. J. Honycutt became rather stale as wave 6 approached when compared to Monroe.

 

That said, would appreciate your quick opinion on that exact same base of the spine energy absorption exercise, twisting it upwards and looping around that is supposed to go something like:

 

Meditation cycle

 

Now being a noob whose only skills resume to pushing and spinning things, had the (perhaps less than brilliant) idea of using one hand to make a spinning vortex and the other to push through its center effectively making an automatic energy absorbing whirlpool with only the top loop requiring conscious attention.

 

Ugly hack that resulted in this less than optimal position but hey, it works (sort of)

 

Meditation

 

Now, here's the issue:

 

At first base felt as hot as a mug  after pouring boiling water... almost to the point of having to stop cause it almost felt like burning.

 

Relax, take a break, few days later at  it again for 30-40min daily and temperature at base of the spine wayyyyy more bearable but now the area below the navel... arghhhhh... what a pain.

 

Sometimes when moving, the area surrounding the sacral chakra hurts so much.

 

Never happening before it's a coincidence to begin couple of days after starting meditating while accompanied of heat, pressure and even pain.

 

Bit at a loss here.



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I actually listen to the CDs and corpse pose laying down. I actually try to twist the energy as it's coming out of the crown and around instead of twisting going up from the bottom though I'm not sure it matters.

I have never experienced any pain other than some headaches when I first started pk. I will occasionally get some throbbing in the root chakra if I'm trying to move something heavier than foil.

I don't personally meditate other than listening to the CDs but if you're experiencing discomfort it might be an energy blockage or things are waking up. If I were in that position I would spend some time doing the full energy circuit with Robert Bruce's new energy ways. Just a suggestion. In his system he recommends only focusing on storing energy in the sub navel area. Maybe someone with more experience meditating can chime in as to what could be causing that.

I think Owl mentioned that he experienced a lot of heat when he was starting some of his practices.

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