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Chronokinetic Disipline


I have been working on several theorys of time dilation and want to compile a list of experiences where it feels as though time moves slower and faster and what the explanations for these are. For example There is consciousness time dilation and macromechanical time dilation. Ie Take 2 peaches and practice slowing down the decay of one if this works you may be on to something. I know when Im landing my aircraft time seems to slow and the feeling of everything around slows down. This is a conscious time dilation affect. Id love to hear more theories and experience of experience of time. Thanksconfused

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There are two types of chronokinesis macro time dilation and energy time dilation. Your mind and thoughts can easily be manipulated to experience time at different rates Ie a long dream in the last 5 minutes of sleep. However Macromechanical experience of the passage of time requires a construct field which a removes the mass to the 4th or alternate dimension used for teleportation. The construct field takes advantage of the bioenergy produced from your localized quantum feild (body) Some theorize the feild utilizes tachyons theoretical particles to accomplice this however. As these only have a mathematical use at this point in time we look to suspended animation using a telekinetic stasis field variant. The stasis field would use slow down or remove the mass particles from the surrounding environmental effects slowing down or speeding them up in a process similar to the disipline used in pyro for putting candles out. This is tricky and I reccomend starting with a localized stasis feild meshed with your bodys own biofeild. Areas of disipline I would reccomend are pyro and pk stasis disiplines then experimentation of extrapolated concepts. In fiction Superman uses a pk dilation feild to move fast. So if you are looking for something to model your visual factor for the feild construct try some of the smallville footage. If this makes sense to anyone I would like to discuss these concepts further.

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I believe it is a common thing, that when you are in danger time really slows down.

I remember going home from the faculty one day. It was night already, I was driving my small Fiat and ahead was a short tunnel. Before the tunnel, the road is walled on each side with huge bricks, which then extend into the tunnel. I never paid any attention to it.
But that day, on the other lane, there was a car which obviously broke down. As I was getting closer with lets say 60km/h, suddenly a Jeep type of car pulled on my side of the road, trying to pass the broken down Seat. My reflex (by God's will) saved me and my friend. It was an unconscious move, the hands pulled the steering wheel right and three cars passed where normally two can, so you can imagine how tight it was.
This is the most traumatic experience I had on the road, even though I was physically unharmed. That night the wall seemed like at least 100 meters long. The next day as we were again going to the faculty, we were talking "Oh here it is..." while we passed by the spot. But to my amazement the wall was actually no more than 25 meters long. Today I still drive everyday by it.

As I have been dreaming and thinking about it many times, I came up with this theory that the subconscious can make near to instantaneous decisions due to a subjective time dilation and give the appropriate instruction to the concious or to the body directly.
Now, due to the fact that the wall seemed to be 4x times the length of what it really is, I suspect the time was slowed by a similar multiplier.
However, should it not affect all my senses? If I have seen 100 meters of wall, shouldn't a sound of 1 second be extended to 4 seconds? Do you have any possible explanation?

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Mabe your subconscious cut out all the other unecessary stimulis to focus all energy on the task at hand?

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Very interesting I also have experienced what you speak of. When I land on the runway I seem to get a slowdown effect. I wonder if you could extend this from your subconsious to the mass of your body to create a time dilation similar to the one visually modeled on smallville. Also in fights Ive been in I have experienced time slowdown effect and in one case precognition to an event of attack (an actual visual)

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I believe not only can time be slown down, but that future events can also be perceived before they happen. Many years back (maybe 14 years ago) on a cold new years night while on the way home from the store, I sat in the back seat and was not wearing a seat belt, I never wore a seat belt before this and never thought about wearing seat belts either. What seems now to have been around 10-15 seconds before our car crash I had a strange deep disturbance sensation in the core of my being warning me to put on my seatbelt, almost like an instinctive knowing where in that moment time meant nothing, so I put it on and we crashed. Had I neglected to put the seatbelt on I would have been tossed forwards head first into the back of the front seat, or possibly through the front window. There was also a study, so I heard, that involved stimulating a receptor in the brain to detect the speed at which it was felt from the moment the sensation was applied. The research shows that the patient actually felt the stimulation not only faster when it was applied to his finger than directly to his brain, but a split moment prior to being stimulated.

There was also a study done where they monitored the biological reflexes of people while they looked at images on a screen, just before a scary image the person's body would react in a negative tense way, and prior to being shown a peaceful image the person's body would react in a calming way. I believe this was either on "What the bleep do we know: down the rabbit hole" or some other video I watched with Dr. John Hagelin which can be found on youtube.



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Shirak Omega X wrote:

Very interesting I also have experienced what you speak of. When I land on the runway I seem to get a slowdown effect. I wonder if you could extend this from your subconsious to the mass of your body to create a time dilation similar to the one visually modeled on smallville. Also in fights Ive been in I have experienced time slowdown effect and in one case precognition to an event of attack (an actual visual)



I do not know if you have ever listened to Dr. Wayne Dyer, but he stated before that he was able to "slow down" his tennis ball during a tenis match by letting go, acceptng, placing his mind in "the gap" (unified field) and he said it was as if the tenis ball literally waited for him to approach it before he struck it.

 So yes, in practice it is no doubt possible.. weather you believe in the bible or not, there is a passage where Jesus says:  "Even the least among you can do all that I have done and more"



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An interesting experiment to try. Time Dilation.

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/1366485/stop_watch_this/

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That was pretty cool.

But it makes sense, backed up by Cavalorns story a few posts up. When you are in trouble or danger your body releases adrenaline therefore your brain processes information faster- the whole flight or fight niche that we have- So when our brains process faster as opposed to the others who are on the same speed, it seems like time has slown down.

This also could explain the driving thing.... If you go somewhere you never been before, it seems like it takes forever, but when you come back through, it  seems like nothing. Mindset probably plays a factor. You want to get there, creating anxiety, making your brain process faster making time slow down. But when your coming home, you know what your going to so the body is relaxed and time stays current. But since your mind recalls the phenomenon you actually notice that time seemed to have traveled faster than it did when you were going....
I hope that made sense. 
But how could we induce this effect?

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exactly it is something we need to figure out possibly starting with something simple repeatable then building the complexity. We need to find a key exercise (like psi wheel) and then build on it (like stasis field) Even if only on a perception level this would be invaluable.

-- Edited by Shirak at 00:26, 2008-09-02

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Basically one can distinguish two situations where the (subjective) time dilation is obvious:
1. You are waiting for something, completely bored, ie at a doctors or the bus station. 30 minutes seems like forever.

2. You are with friends, at a party, or even playing monopoly, socializing, having fun. You started at 8pm but before you realize it, it is midnight already.

How can one bring that "it takes forever" feel to the fun situation? I speculate the place to start would be increasing awareness. I recently finished reading a book, written by a Jesuit, Anthony de Mello. He said the key to everything is awareness. You would actually try to put your mind into an objective state, looking at situations as a third person, imaging that you see yourself reacting to whatever comes. Maybe that could help.

I can, if anyone wants to try it out, write a small program that could show a message, or a colour, or whatever else, for a short interval, starting from a really short one and increasing it gradually. Then you could press a stop button and try to answer correctly.
I actually don't know if that would be relevant to the mentioned discipline :)

-- Edited by Cavalorn at 21:37, 2008-09-02

-- Edited by Cavalorn at 21:38, 2008-09-02

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That sounds like a very usfull time awareness feedback tool!!!

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one common practice is to meditate near a clock so you can hear the ticking and as you meditate focus on making your perception of time faster or slower (faster perception, more slowly things seem to be happening and vice versa)

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Ok I tried the clock meditation today there definately was an increased awareness or slowdown effect experienced or perhaps it was because I had a consistant reference I became more aware of my minds ability to speed up and slow down. I am going to try and find some other reference types to practice durring the day without a clock I am using a simple exercise visualization 1 2 3 4 5 etc to see if I can increase the amount of clear numbers I can register in my minds eye over a 5 second period. Any thoughts on how to improve this?confused

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Does adrenaline have an effect on consciousness and its experience of time? For me subjectivly yes.


-- Edited by Rover at 08:41, 2008-10-08

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When doing something stressful or when the body needs to see something in slowmo cause ur in danger or how after a while u start to see things slower like learning to play expert on guitar hero or something the human eye can change the way it works. The eyes can go from 30 pics a sec (normal vision) to 100 or 200 pics a second (slow motion) to help servival. Its almost like an ability anyone can learn to control like in the movie wanted. This is a scientific fact.

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de ja vou, could anyone explain this in one sentence?

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This is really interesting, and I wonder about the relationship between the stasis field and mass cancel as well. Your superman example reminds me of a Taichi visualization technique which I have used successfully to make my body feel lighter while doing a 6 mile run. At the time I was satisfied that the effect was just a trick of perception(only in my head). Though, now in light of the topic, and my own stasis field practice, I will revisit the technique! I adapted the posture for running, and let myself be pulled by the string from my third eye:)

Anyway here's the technique


WuJi posture

1. Stand comfortably with your feet shoulder width apart.

2. Make sure your toes are pointed straight ahead.

3. There is a gentle, relaxed bend to the knees and they tend to push lightly outwards as opposed to collapsing inwards.

4. The pelvis is tucked slightly forward so the lower spine is straight.

5. The shoulders are loose and relaxed, not raised up, hands hang loosely at the sides.

6. The head is held up as if suspended by a string.

7. Breathing is done through the nose and is slow, soft, and deep.

8. Eyes are either closed, or are slightly parted but not focused on anything.


Obe applications

As an aside, this technique has also worked for me as an out of body exit:)

Let's get really crazy!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRWwI61so5Q&feature=related




-- Edited by owltwelve on Sunday 6th of June 2010 03:32:12 AM

-- Edited by owltwelve on Sunday 6th of June 2010 03:35:40 AM

-- Edited by owltwelve on Sunday 6th of June 2010 03:52:16 AM

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