Psychokinesis

Davethewave · Psionics researcher

RE: Sender -> Receiver [experiment]

Cavalorn · Psiontist

Man I appreciate your every word, I'm glad to have you here and you are very welcomed to continue sharing any ideas you might have. I agree we should keep it simple but defined and "energetic".
Shirak if you are busy just let me know when you feel like doing the next round.

Joshwah · Psionics Research Fellow

Well, I gotta say well done, both of you!
This is a very fascinating experiment.

What I found most curious is how you both interpretted the images, in terms of direction.

Every image Cavalorn recieved, focused on the left side of the image itself. IE. the landscape: the circle you drew could be the moon, the 3 prongs top of the lit up building, and the "corner" of the building is the disign of the building with the prongs on it. So, you "read" the image, left to right, but didn't interpret the rest. Possibly the rest could've been lost? Anther, the whale statue. The bird on the beak, left, then mountains- fin, left to right.

Now what is unique, is that Shirak's images were all read right to left. IE, the one with the land with the heart, he interpretted the clouds as waves, right hand corner of the image. The Star for the moon and the star, right to left, and lastly, the Coco-cola one, if you look, the loop for the C in Cola, looks like an "m" or arches. the "bridge" he sees is the end of that "c" going through the loop of the "l".

I find this VERY intresting.
Maybe somehow you could match these reading differences. Maybe somehow the image is flipped by the sender? and flipped by the recievers mind?
Perhaps the "interference" in telepathy is the mismatched ways of recieving/sending.... maybe?

-- Edited by Joshwah at 05:43, 2008-07-15

Shirak · International Psionics Researcher/Author/Journalist

Very interesting I am left handed I wonder if this is why left to right. Cavalorn are you right handed? Also I know the eyes see everything upside down at birth and the brain flips it the right way up after several days a sort of corrective software. Perhaps the images are received this way.

Ro · Psionics Journalist

This information may help the experiment?

Joshwah · Psionics Research Fellow

Hey, I was wondering if anyone would like to continue this experiment with me... Cavalorn? Or maybe Ro? Anybody else interested, just let me know. I really want to try this out with some people- and maybe try some different techniques and things~

Ro · Psionics Journalist

OK lets start with a preliminary, I Start my 4 day break tomorrow so Ill start sending you an image now try and focus on me and things that remind you of me and I to will do the the same as I send I will send several times today and tomorrow then you write what images colors your getting and Ill post the photo it would be good if Cavalorn was involved to because I could send him the image pre your comments so that he could validate the test accuracy :)

I am sending now...

Joshwah · Psionics Research Fellow

I've been trying all day (since about 2pm when I checked) and I have got a few shapes reoccuring... I will post a copy of what I drew tommorrow. I'm going to meditate before bed and try and focus you Ro, see if I can spark a dream.

Alrighty, below is what I came up with:

During one of the meditations, I had a strong smell of strawberry which I couldn't identify the source of- (so I noted on the paper).
Also, during another one I had this flash that scared me for some reason... I mean, I jumped when I saw this flash it scared me so bad... I couldn't calm myself down after this, so I just gave up and took a shower... Then I went to bed, I had a dream of a bulldozer~ Which I attempted to draw in the top right...
I don't know if any of this has to do with anything though, I guess we will see.

-- Edited by Joshwah at 21:35, 2009-01-17

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foreverago02 · Psionics Research Fellow

I don't want to participate because I am literally on the polar opposite of having any psychic abilities, etc. AlthThe harder I want something to work, the less it works out.

Anyways, I suggest you two set a certain time when you think of eachother/the experiment for one hour everyday. This will make everything more intense since you are thinking of eachother at the exact same time within one hour. You both should send those images within that hour. Both of you should meditate before that hour, and then send the images to eachother within that hour. It might be hard to do because of busy schedules, but Ro you said you have a 4 day break so hopefully you will have time?

I know this works because once I was thinking of calling my cousin. The next second the phone rang. It was my cousin! I told him I was just thinking of calling him. He claimed he was just going to call me too! Then he got confused and said I DID call him! His phone rang, he picked it up, it was me. I was like NO! you called me. My phone rang, I picked it up, you were on the other line. Weirdest thing ever. We came to the conclusion that the phone rang like a second after both of us thought of calling eachother. Basically the phone rang and connected us by itself. I didn't believe in telepathy, etc. back then, by it was the start to me getting into this stuff. I have had other strange experiences though, especially as a child.

Ro · Psionics Journalist

Ok Josh straight away im impressed you got many hits you got the rain you got the cloud bottom corner of the can it says ozone of the can hard to see in this pic. You got the base shape of the can or curve of the lid You interpreted the spray logo above the duck as lightning. And strawberry I focused on the red shape and smell as part of my sending you have added them together as strawberry. The spray has a very sweet strong smell the fact that you picked this up is very impressive. You have expressed the solid blue of the can with many other abstract principles contained in and on the can. Also the bright flash could be interpretted as the large yellow banner across the rain.

Some points. Before sending I remembered some things conversations and points about your character to imprint where the image was to be sent. Also from previous experiments I remembered to focus on various symbols colours and smell as I sent it throughout the day I remembered to first imprint your character points and things that remind me of you then the symbols contained on the can then I mentaly would say the word send. Very impressive! I would love to hear everyones thoughts. Keep in mind we have never seen each other or met. I believe I am even living in a different country.

-- Edited by Ro at 07:04, 2009-01-18

Joshwah · Psionics Research Fellow

Wow, I can't believe it worked (i'm super excited now)... haha, your pretty good at sending Ro! Shall we continue the way Shirak and Cavalorn did in their experiment- taking turns sending and recieving... it's all up to you.

Yes, I think we are in different countries and I doubt Ro would like to stay up late- especially if he has work in the morning (and I don't want to get up early XD). But, good idea!

Ro · Psionics Journalist

Ok I know that we can send images I want to get a map split it into 4 or 8 and give each section a symbol. I would focus on sending the target symbol and you would choose which area I was trying to send by the symbol that you get I will not post the symbol map until after you give your impressions of the symbol so as not to bias your descision so in other words I will not even post the map until after you have given your impressions. This will be good for communicating location and so many other applications if it works. Ok Im sending the symbol/shape now and throughout the day. Ive already created the map try and get as many impressions down as these may also point to the location as well as the symbol.

Joshwah · Psionics Research Fellow

Sorry Ro. I havent gotten anything all day, except a chilly feeling and a Menorah like thing (the jewish candle holder). But I also came down with something and have been taking meds all day, which might have an effect. I'll try again tommorrow, to see what I get.

Ro · Psionics Journalist

Hey that's cool I'm recovering from a throat illness to I was at the specialist yesterday. Please just focus on on getting better and when you feel energized again we can start up again. I have always found my pk handicapped while my body redirects my energy for healing.

foreverago02 · Psionics Research Fellow

that is sooo weird! I have been sick with a throat illness since Thursday. We had a fire drill at college and I had to go outside in below 5 degrees without any coat on. I've been completely over the throat pain by Saturday, and the coughing has finally stopped today. Is it possible to transfer negative energy from being sick to others? maybe that's what happened with you two! lol idk

Ro · Psionics Journalist

"Is it possible to transfer negative energy from being sick to others? "

I dont know perhaps sympatheticly if it is an energy based illness, and the receiver goes through what the other is going through via empathy? Essentially it would not be a virus but an energy based effect.
Ie when hypnotised it is proven that you can touch someone with a cool piece of metal and tell them its red hot within seconds the skin will register bright angry blisters.
Shirak did an Article on it a while back here is the link
http://www.activeboard.com/forum.spark?forumID=117223&p=3&topicID=20303115
But that has more to do with emotional contagions a well known herd effect with humans. Mabe we could continue this discussion on that thread?

-- Edited by Ro at 21:51, 2009-01-20

foreverago02 · Psionics Research Fellow

Are you and Joshwah going to continue the experiment? I really want to see the results!

Joshwah · Psionics Research Fellow

We are, I just needed another day!

Alright. So some things here- The first thing I got was the "x" at the top right. Then, I thought could be a cross or a sword, but they're all the same shapes (I tried and put the same shapes together.
The circle with the waves came together and I felt that they were somewhere on the left.
Also, in the bottom left corner I kept on seeing this shape, but I couldn't tell what it was at first and attempted to draw it several times. I decided it was an eye.
The sun was the biggest thing I saw.

On the right hand side of the paper I wrote how I felt about the area- I got that it was hard to breathe, thick air or humid like and it was windy. I put hectic, but I can't explain it, just alot of stuff going on at once but it's very subtle (maybe nature). I still got a chilly feeling, so I put it down, and I also kept on seeing something swaying- couldn't make it out and the harder I concentrated on it the quicker it went away.
From this I thought of a place: A mountainous area with a valley forest like thing, and it has a lake (where most of the 'hecticism' was [maybe like a watering hole]). The number '4' also appeared in my meditation. It's either the top right corner (which is the "x", cross, or sword), or the bottom left corner (which is the eye). But I just don't know for sure XD.

Well, there we have it. (I don't feel to confident about it- everything kept on changing unlike the first one I did. I think it may be a result as the meds, but I can't say for sure.)

-- Edited by Joshwah at 08:35, 2009-01-21

Ro · Psionics Journalist

You definitely got a few of the symbols I placed on the map. The one I was focusing on was the triangle Technically a pyramid I tried to symbolically send it from many different angles so you would get it perhaps you picked up on the top view, you got it but you also got the humid ocean y feel I was trying to send as this area is Papua New Guinea and the Coral see.
In your description you write

"On the right hand side of the paper I wrote how I felt about the area- I got that it was hard to breathe, thick air or humid" and right next to it you draw the triangle almost as an afterthought but its there when you put all the clues together you were more descriptive and generally spoke more about the top right hand side of the map which is where I wanted to direct you I accidentaly stuffed up and put a cross on both sides of the map however top right x marks the spot I was trying to send but yes there is one on the right hand side you were spot on with the circle in the top left.
NOw I did not tell you the map or the symbols I used so as not to bias your results however given a map after writing down all the clues if this was given to me to decipher I would say the most info you wrote impressions about were in the top right corner therefore that must be the target the sender was sending.

Oh you also got the wavy symbol! Also this is a map of "Sunny"QLD which is like Queenslands slogan. But where you draw the sun on the paper is in the middle which is where the star is the sun is a star!!
Perhaps I should post a map next and I will split it into 8 then on my own map I will put 1 symbol so it doesnt get so confusing this time I will visualize points on the map and try and send the location.

Say I crashed my airplane on one of a group of islands and tried to send my location without radio equipment this would be very useful :) Lets take a break for a day or so and start again?

-- Edited by Ro at 12:49, 2009-01-21

Joshwah · Psionics Research Fellow

Hmmm. Not to bad! I thought I was going to be completely off XD.
Yeah sure! We can take a break, that's fine with me. I need to get over this sickness anyway. Just say when you would like to start it back up again.

-- Edited by Joshwah at 14:31, 2009-01-21