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RE: Levitation


Bliss, it was around when I was a kid and I'm almost 38 now. I loved that movie The Craft, it has a lot of symbolism in it actually. The girls seemed to be using the energy of that new girl because she was a geister, IMO. She said she wanted it to rain and a pipe burst in her room. That is definitely something that would happen to me. :)

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"What we call gravity is the result of the warping of time by the mass of the earth. Gravity is a force exerted by the earth to stop you from falling."

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http://www.ted.com/talks/boaz_almog_levitates_a_superconductor

The lecture and demo on this link is one of the best examples of quantum levitation and quantum locking using a superconductor that I have seen.



-- Edited by Shirak on Wednesday 5th of March 2014 10:34:19 AM

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This video still amazes me .. he makes it look so easy.

He does it so perfectly .. lift off is so smooth and even the landing.



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Quantum locking quantum levitation explained.



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Many yogis describe something which sounds like superconductivity in the human system, after the tantric generation stage. By generation stage, I am referring to the nadi purification process which kundalini takes you through. If one is celibate & doing the appropriate practices, the process is pretty quick. Anyway, the friction caused by resistance in the nervous system & ego, produces a lot of heat, enough heat for tummo practice & resulting bliss which improves concentration.

I haven't completed the generation stage yet myself, but I hear the heat is replaced by what feels like a cool breeze. Even at my current level of development though, I experience heavy fields of force moving away from me in a haphazard manner, which has caused spontaneous levitation. This seems like a very good explanation for what some yogis experience:)



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Bob does a really good job of describing type A and type B gravity and how to amplify the gravity wave to distort spacetime leading to levitation.



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owltwelve wrote:

Many yogis describe something which sounds like superconductivity in the human system, after the tantric generation stage. By generation stage, I am referring to the nadi purification process which kundalini takes you through. If one is celibate & doing the appropriate practices, the process is pretty quick. Anyway, the friction caused by resistance in the nervous system & ego, produces a lot of heat, enough heat for tummo practice & resulting bliss which improves concentration.

I haven't completed the generation stage yet myself, but I hear the heat is replaced by what feels like a cool breeze. Even at my current level of development though, I experience heavy fields of force moving away from me in a haphazard manner, which has caused spontaneous levitation. This seems like a very good explanation for what some yogis experience:)


 I'm curious Owl, have you actually levitated already? It almost sounds like you have.



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Yes, mostly unintentionally; it usually manifests as a lateral slide, or about 6 to 8 inches of vertical lift. The lift feels a lot like opposing magnetic force, & still very unbalanced. Also, heavy furniture always slides & rocks at the same time. I have gotten to where I can usually recreate the conditions which lead to it happening, but that's not the same as having direct initiation control of the event. I believe if I lived in a more isolated place I could probably master it, but I usually feel self conscious because it disturbs my neighbors:)



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Recreating the conditions would seem to me like you were having direct initiation of the event. The speed at which you do it appears to be the issue though. I imagine that the more familiar you become with the process the faster and more instinctual it would become.

Considering the amount of experience you have doing energy work I'm going to go on a limb based on what you said and assume that you have experienced something similar to this with other practices. Where it was based on conditions at the beginning and eventually you discovered(?) a more direct route to the end result. Which leads me to believe that I am experiencing similar issues with PK. I feel that I am not able to directly initiate the clarity of concentration and focus that is required to do the PK I have experienced on occasion. Yes, I can recreate some of the conditions by meditating and getting my mind as close as I can to the original situation but it's never the same. Those times that I have experienced the clarity I have to say that PK was as easy as existing/breathing/experiencing/etc.

This brings me to a question that I believe is pretty important. What is it about all of this, in your journey, that indicates to you the blockage or mental hangup that is keeping you from attaining the direct control? As of right now I feel like there is nothing but hidden issues that I can't seem to bring to the light so I can properly address them. They're always lurking below the surface and on occasion I am able to poke through it. It seems to me that there is no clear cut process because everyone is different and it will always be that way though I don't think it should be. Would you even consider the lack of being able to have direct initiation of any PK skill something to do with some kind of mental blockage?



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Well, I wouldn't say it's a mental block, as I know exactly what is happening. I don't practice it as much as I might like, because the energy effects people around me in ways which upsets them. This is the reason I said it would be easier to practice in an isolated environment.

Though, I can reliably recreate the conditions; the force field which creates the lift seems to move with an intelligence which is different from my ego. So, when I let the energy go; levitation tends to happen, but it feels like letting a wild animal out of the cage & many other phenomena along with it, phenomena which effect the environment with a lot of power. These phenomena include movement of objects which are hundreds of pounds; pulling people out of there bodies, stimulating the kundalini of other people, electro magnetic pulses, the physical materialization of entities which sometimes harass others, the generation of dangerous wind frequencies. All of these phenomena, are very difficult to reign in once they are flowing.

I agree with you in believing that I can learn to focus these energies, but I don't wish to be careless with the safety of others around me. I'm pretty sure that I've reached a level of heat generation, that I can probably start fires as well, but I resist practicing for similar reasons. I often create poltergeists in my sleep as well. I will practice pyrogenesis small with an electric thermometer though, since it seems to require a lot less energy or management than levitation.

My meditation teacher and  Sangha, are already helping me will with unconscious stuff, which is usually what Vajrayana students do way before tummo. I just happened to be blessed/cursed with the energy before the full preparation. Also, once the energy reaches a certain stage, the human nervous system & ego are not really wired to handle it, so there are deity yoga practices which lead you to develop the body/mind of a Buddha. The Vajra body, can totally embody the energy, but it means letting go of the individual sense of self, which I've experienced but still resist sometimes.

My lineage offers a 4 month solitary retreat which I would like to do next year. I think it would help me in many ways. In the mean time, I'll continue doing 2-3 week retreats which helps. All that being said, the energy has a mind of it's own, & might force me to let go tomorrow, lolbiggrin



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All of that sounds very scary. I can totally sympathize regarding being afraid for people around you. I'm glad that you're concerned for that and I'm sure that there are some personality types out there that would throw that concern out the windows just to attain what they believe is their personal right. After hearing what Shirak had to say about learning to extinguish fires first I can understand how that would be scary to start introducing fire starting into your consciousness when it could easily get out of control. 

I keep reading about people doing "shielding" to keep their energy contained. Is something like that not possible for this situation? Is that what the Vajra body ultimately does?

I've lost some of the zest for going out of body and I often think about how I wouldn't mind if someone was to rip me out consciously so I can start reprogramming my subconscious. The thought of being contained in the Astral for a specific period of time without fear of snapping back into the body sounds awesome. I'm sure there would be a lot of fear and nervousness that I wouldn't be able to get back. :) IF you wanted to I'd be all game for you to make it happen. lol

I can't imagine the feeling of that kind of energy that feels alive and sentient. I'm sure I'll be experiencing it at some point though since it appears to be the direction that I'm driven to go. 

I was actually trying to levitate my psi wheel last night for the first time in over 6+ months. It would shake a little every so often so I am pretty confident I could master it. I really need to build me a RYTY (I think that's how it's spelled).

I really hope you get to do the 4 month solitary retreat. We don't get to break away from society enough. Even if you weren't able to do much besides rest I think it would be well worth the time and energy.

 



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Shielding the energy has never really worked for me, besides I think it's ultimately healthier to face things & learn to be comfortable with who I am than repress my nature even when it's hard or scary.

Concerning OBEs; I think it's healthier for you if you work your way to it gradually. I mean you are already out of body actually; it's just that you are blocking awareness of it. Also, when you are consciously shifted from your body, your thoughts will manifest immediately, so if you have fears, they will show up. When you go out at your own pace your ego will naturally protect you if things get too scary, & snap you back. When someones energy field forces you out you may not have as much influence over setting your own boundaries. If you were ever around me regularly though, it would probably happen frequently as my former roommate & neighbors have complained about. If you really want a safer shortcut so your can entrain your conscious awareness to the experience, you can try galantamine. If you are interested in that I can give you more info:)

The RYTY, is definitely a very useful PK tool. Also, retreats up the speed of your development exponentially:)

 



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I think the shielding thing has been a hard one for me to figure out as well. Though I don't think that using shields is necessarily a way to avoid things. I think it could be used to help contain so other people aren't being affected as much. I can imagine creating a construct that automatically senses people within range of influence and then creating a shield/bubble around them. Then it wouldn't be such a guilty feeling to fully immerse yourself into your practice. Then again, you'd have to be pretty good at shielding and so far I'm unable to muster my own interest in it. Though lately I keep feeling like I should be doing it.

The only thing I have been able to succeed with when attempting OBEs is to have my face slip through my pillow and get a closeup of my skin and hair follicles, float around my bedroom and snap back into my body, and roll around. :P I've had a couple lucid dreams almost get me consciously into the astral. Honestly I wouldn't care much if someone's energy forced me out. I get what you're saying about going a natural pace. I have only one goal for Astral projection right now and that is to do some reprogramming. Feel free to dump some of your energy in my neck of the woods. lol

I'm completely interested in Galantamine. I love learning about things even if I never end up using some of them. I just barely came across the idea of Ormus. Fascinating stuff.



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Galantamine, is basically a non-addictive Alzheimer's drug which is used to improve memory & alertness. For the purposes of lucid dreaming & OBEs; the best way to use it is to take it while applying the wake back to bed method. So, you go to sleep normally, but set your alarm to wake up 4hrs or so later. You then take one or two capsules of Galantamine. It takes about an hour to kick in, so you can listen to binaurals or what ever & allow yourself to relax into sleep again. What the Galantamine does, is keep your conscious memory awareness alert even as you fall into a dream, which should be more frequent at this later stage of the night. Another supplement you can take as you swallow the Galantamine, is Alpha GPC, which will basically prolong the experience for up to an hour or longer. Just be aware that the brain builds up a tolerance, so you should only use it once or twice a week. It definitely works; I even know some dream yogis who use it once in a while. It's good especially for as I said entraining the subconscious to get used to being out of body. I have a good book on the subject of Lucid dream supplements & how to use them effectively I could give you. Many people just buy the pills & use them without instruction, then assume they don't work, but they do if you use them right.

Of course, the best way to develop the skill of shifting away from physical matter reality is concentration & regular practice in my opinion. Galantamine is easier, but once you have the skill; you can go out at will basically:)



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Awesome. Sorry about the conversation shift away from Levitation. :( I'll keep this on my wishlist for when I get some extra cash. In the meantime I realize that I need to really start encouraging my subconscious during day to day life regardless. I was able to lose 15 pounds since November because I wanted to be closer to 160 pounds and it happened already. I figure that I probably have more connection with my subconscious than I previously believed and I need to just accept that fact. The sooner I let go of those old beliefs the quicker I'll be progressing.



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If I can find a way to vibrate shift the objects dimensional state to outside of 3 dimensional space I wonder if it would still be affected by gravity. It would certainly remove the risk of colliding with a physical object while in flight. Just thinking out loud.

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Shirak, in the Visuddhimagga, & other Buddhist, texts on concentration; mastering concentration on space as an object leads to the exact powers you've mentioned. After you master concentration on space, you can move unobstructed through objects, by imposing the space construct upon the object; the construct just needs to be stable, like at the hallucination level. It is also said that space concentration may be use for flight, by observing the relationship between space & the body, or tactile awareness.

My own experience with kasina, meditation involves wind, space, earth, fire, & water. I've done wind & space the most, but wind is the only one that I'm close to mastering. Having said that, the powers mentioned in the texts are definitely real. If you take the stasis field practice & forget the goal, but just pay attention to the wind for extended periods, eventually you start feeling like your body isn't there, & that you are the wind, or the wind is your body, rather than an extension of your body. After enough of this practice, some of that lighter body stays with you. I go for walks when no one is around, where I move at speeds my muscles couldn't produce. There is no fatigue, because it's like I'm blowing down the road. It's hard to describe, but it is one of the powers the wind kasina is said to develop, along with other air entrainment powers but more powerful. I haven't even fully mastered wind, but doing some of the powers mentioned.

I didn't mean to go on a tangent about wind, but I thought it would be relatable. The same approach works with all the kasinas. When appalling the space kasina to pass through objects; it's can be done in a similar way to cloud bursting, at least the way I do it. By this I mean, I usually burst clouds by focusing on the blue sky behind the cloud as though the clouds isn't there, & reality bends to match the object of my attention.

Anyway, the Visuddhimagga, is hard for lay people to get through. The language is dense, & it's mostly concerned with enlightenment.  I started writing a book I'm calling Kasina Magick, to help psions achieve higher level mind powers safely, since most yogis won't do it. As i said, I haven't mastered them all yet, but I've already gained powers from the ones I've been working with:)



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