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How to move a psi wheel


blehblehI cant seem 2 move a psi wheel i only moved it once but it was barley noticed when i did i need expert tips i watch vids of every sort but none seem 2 help wat should i think of when relaxing



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Good question... "what should you think when relaxing"

To start, let me tell you that you got the wrong guy if you think you've got
an expert here, cause I actually discovered what I can do still very
recently. So, all I can do is tell you what I know and do in order to see if
that's of any help to you.

Others cannot make one learn, but they can give a help, so let's see if I
can give you one.

So, about what to think...

I, myself, don't think of anything.

And whenever I have a thought I stop having it.

It is possible to move the object in the pin while simultaneously having
thoughts, but I found out that when starting out I found out that the more
thoughts I had the more difficult it would get, cause you need to be fully
submersed into what you're doing.

I used to imitate a stone and certain aspects of it...

Might not seem like much, but being a stone is a lot harder than it looks.

A stone doesn't move, act or react to anything at all, and it definitely
doesn't think, neither does it care about being a stone in the first place...
all the stone does all the time, is be there, for the simple purpose of
being... totally detached from everything... like nothing.

Maybe that's why people always say that one should start by concentrating in
the one single intention of the object moving and nothing more.

So, personally I prefer the no thinking approach.

I also used to watch videos in order to learn, but it turns out that they
are much better to acquire knowledge than they are to learn.

The word "learn" was created to express the act of "withdrawing and
expanding whatever is already inside of someone, and increase that" instead
of "cramming more and more into someone, hoping that it's accepted and
assimilated"... people have just distorted the meaning throughout the time.

That's where the saying "you can teach a person how to ride a bike, but the
learning has to be done by themselves" comes from.

And I found out that I get much better results when learning from studying,
experimenting, and exploring my own reactions, emotions, feelings, etc. than
I get from watching videos, reading books, forums like this one, and other
stuff.

But I still use videos, books, etc in order to find new creative ideas and
methods from time to time.

So, I started by listening to what everyone else had to say and learned it,
but without results, then I started to look inside of me, listened and
studied myself and BAM. It happened... one moment I couldn't do anything at
all and in the next I was moving stuff around.

Like riding a bike...

I assume you also had a bike like mostly everyone else... now, those were
important teachings that you can also apply in this situation right now.

Remember the frustration you went through as you struggled to learn how to
ride your first bicycle. All your friends riding it, while all you were
doing is climbing on the bike and immediately falling off. You made mistake
after mistake. Then suddenly, you stopped falling off, you began to peddle,
the bike begins rolling, and then suddenly, a whole new world opens to you.

That's how mistakes should be used... as guides to where you should be going.

They are not there to stop you... they will only stop you if you hand over
that power to them or someone else.

Of course I'm over simplifying here, and there are more details... but it's
not that complex either, you'll get there in time... get these basics down
first.

Personally it was much harder for me to get a driver's license than it was
to learn this.

Anyway, maybe taking a broad look at the process I went through might help
you achieve your goal.

But you probably still have your problem, so... I'm gonna assume that you
have the relaxation and thinking part fully covered and I'm gonna tell you
what I would do next If I were you.

My next step would be to develop the intention of movement... in other
words... see it as already done.

At the present time, even thought I spend time carefully analyzing what
happened after every experiment, when I'm doing something in that moment I
don't care one bit about how it's done or even if it's done at all, and if
wants to move that way, I let it go, if it wants to move the other, even
better, I just let it go... it's a learning process until you get the hang
of it.

It is to notice that currently when I want to make repetitive or continuous
movements, I don't have to do that much effort anymore, so I basically
interfere only when I want something to change the current state, like
increase/decrease speed, change direction, etc.

So, while doing that, everything feels like an absolute emptiness, without
myself, without the object, and definitely without distractions like the
ones caused by thoughts.

And if you want to continue developing yourself, there are more things to do
beyond this point, but get these basics down first.

Also, in your post you also said that you "cant seem 2 move" and "barley
noticed", so here's a tip that you might want to try:

If I was in your shoes right now, the next time I tried to move the object I
would drop those thoughts about the previous attempts and the thought of
expecting HUGE results, even if that was what I wanted the most, and instead
I would just concentrate in what I wanted to do at that particular time.

If you need a justification for that, then I'll say that if the though in my
mind was of the object not moving and how unsurprised I was, then, I know
(by previous testing) that my mind would use any means available to attain
just that, which would be the opposite of what I really wanted in the first
place.

So, if you want to use a tool (in this case yourself) to do something, you
will have a better chance of success if you figure out how to use it.

Don't take things for granted, not even what I wrote here, but definitely
give it a try, cause there's a chance that it might help.

So, I guess all this talk amounts to just this:

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Just do it... nothing more. You're in control.

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Oh, and tell me something if it does improve the result, OK?

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I was reading your post Yourself, and I thought of something interesting...

When you say it's like riding a bike: Sure eventually you learn after falling down a couple of times... but that's it. Your body/mind is a huge coward, it will remember something it doesn't like and tries it's hardest to avoid it i.e. you touch a hot stove, you get burned pyschically and mentally yo learn not to touch the stove... however, if all the times you touched the stove was cool/cold, you would never learn "not to touch the stove".
I think it's hard for some people (me included) to learn without consequence...
"Ah, I didn't move the wheel, oh well. I'll try again later."
as opposed to:
"OH MY GOD! I didn't move the wheel, i'm going to lose my eyesight for 30 min. (or whatever~)

You see... what I mean though?

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Hey Joshwah

Sure everyone's body/mind is in a way kinda like a huge coward that only
learns if it has consequences...

But I would rather call it a "natural ability to adapt to anything".

The best part about that ability is that it can be used for one's advantage.

Kinda like a game where I'm constantly outsmarting myself by finding out
how my body/mind works and reacts to some event and taking advantage of
those characteristics to make sure that something I want does happen.

As a kid I had a learning based in fear like that too... in fact, I also
burned my right hand very badly in a hot stove when I was 5 or 6 years old.

But now it's much more fun to learn by desire.

And sometimes, even desire is not enough... I had times and situations where
I couldn't get past some newly found great obstacle and I noticed that
sometimes things don't come in response to a desire, instead they come in
response to a need...

And if that need doesn't exist, what do I do? ... Well, I create it.

That's why I said: "You're in control".

After a while a person starts to become aware of who they really are and
the fear based learning becomes a desire based learning instead.

And that's where the real fun of learning begins...

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