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RE: Cloud flaring


I have told my family and girlfriend things in the past and found that often is not worth it, i often inspire the people i talk to in some way but people are set in their beliefs, as you guys r saying people are anchored to their ego based views and dont like the possibilty of it being delusion at all. Current laws of quantum physics say that not only can people's influence affect psi ability at the time but also that peoples future and past influence affects the now too because they exsist simultaneously which just complicates the matter lol. i think in general that if people are goin to be made aware on a larger scale of the nature of the universe regarding the possibilty of psi that often the best way to communicate it is to do it where people can see it but say nothing, which for me just happens naturally when im practicing.



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You have touched on some really interesting points there is a really good audio book out called amirs entanglement that helped me understand quantum entanglement. Theres also an article in one of the recent new scientists magazines on teleportation successes in the lab.

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How exactly do you do cloud flaring? Or did I miss a post somewhere?

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I never noticed this cloud flaring video before, it's great! I practice this with the wind, but hav not tried it with rain except for puting the rain into stasis:)

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I have been doing a few experiments with making clouds dissapear, I must admit I am a bit skeptical about this because so far every time I have tried the cloud has dissapeared gradually over a few minutes. I havn't selected any massive clouds just small ones and I dont know the exact natural process of these clouds, whether they are shrinking away to nothing and then reforming again.  I have seen a few videos on you tube with this guy really chanting hard.  I just tried focussing on a cloud calmly until everything else seems to get a bit fuzzy and all I see is the cloud and I visualized it shrinking and vanishing,  so far they have.   I do work outside and always look at the clouds anyway everyday, so maybe I have already developed a connectin with clouds without knowing it.
I took this photo just last night with my phone, I do get to appreiciate some beautiful skys.  I would like to hear anyones opinion if they think its possible to make them dissapear or if it is just the natural behaviour.

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It's possible, keep going! I'm working on singling clouds out to blow in a direction opposite the rest of the cloud group. Also, remember just because it's natural behavior, doesn't mean you're not influencing the outcome. I mean for instance that a psi_wheel is designed to spin, but we don't expect it to walk into the kitchen & bake a pie:) In a similar way, it's natural for clouds to move with the wind; grow density, and thin out. Many Pk practitioners believe we are effecting probabilities & kinetic energies which are alredy involved.

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Yeah I see what you mean, I tried 4 clouds today three seemed to just fade away leaving no trace, it required minimum effort all I did was just looked at them, 1 remained although it was different to the others more of a sort of wispy airflow I think, this stayed however.
Regarding manipulation of kinetic energy, I have noticed this alot recently, when practicing the psi wheel  or inverted foil, I have noticed how it is so much easier if I have the window open lol.  When people say its not you moving the object its a draft, the ironic thing is that it is a draft but it seems to be manipulated by you to carry out your intention. I have felt subtle airflows come past my face from the open window to carry out my intention on the object.

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Ah, don't worry about what others think if you now the truth. Some days I practice on the RyTy with the fan blowing for development of airflow control. If you haven't already, I'm sure you'll develop sensitivity in connection with movement intention. If the air is blowing the psi_wheel, see if you have directional control. Also, checkout this video of Shirak in Sedona, which is relevant to your concerns. This video really helped me to relax & improve with psi_wheel practice, as well as air control:)





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Yeah, I really enjoyed this movie. My girlfriend while watching it kept saying, "This is the stuff you always talk about!" I'm reading the book now wondering if it's any different:)

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apparently, those men also stare at "Goats"...

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Yeah I thought of that last night, I bought Men Who Stare At Goats not that long ago, that was where I was encouraged to do some cloud bursting, quite funny film and interesting that something along the same lines actually happened.

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Fridge,   ssshhhhhhhhhh,    keep this quiet but I thought we may get told to tone the whole goat thing down by the moderator, and have you seen it he is posting pictures of squirrels with light sabres   biggrinbiggrinbiggrin

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ahah, yeah. i think the raw shock of seeing that almost triggered a waking obe biggrin

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Here is a video of someone trying cloud shaping

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Nice..

I have tried to shape clouds, but without much of a success so far. I targetted a cloud that reminded me of some shape and then visualized the gaps filling. Well, the cloud usually disappeared instead of new clouds forming at the gaps.

I have only made a few attempts so far. This probably takes me some conditioning of the mind and some time to get it going.



-- Edited by Sussch on Thursday 17th of March 2011 07:37:03 AM

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One of the biggest challenges to PK, is to forget the idea that it's supposed to be hard. I'm sure everyone here has experienced pushing hard with intense visualization on spinning a psi_wheel, and actually locking it. Then as soon as you relax & focus on something else it starts moving.

Some of my most powerful PK happens when I train with children, because they have no bias or ego concerning whether PK will work or not. With children, I just imagine that the PK goal is something I can already do, and just have fun with playing a character.

So, you have seen the video of the guy shaping the video. It looked pretty easy for him. We can tell that he is altering his consciousness with the voice change(playing a character). Well, if you pretend to be Cookie Monster, for 5min, then you are in an altered state:)

I guess what I'm saying is that we can decide that things are easy, & focus directly. If you project the idea of difficuly...well, that's it's own form of PK manifestation. You will probably be accomadated with difficulty if you expect it, but that difficulty is no less powerful a manifestation.


Anyway, I love that he is not afraid to chant in the funny voice:)

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Some photos taken that show what clouds can do this is for cloud shaping inspiration.

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Wow thanks for these Shirak,  I might try those little spirals , second picture from the bottom.



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Yeah, after seeing these images yesterday afternoon, I was inspired to try cutting clouds in half. I didn't succeed at cutting them exactly, but was able to pinch them the way some bend spoons at fulcrum:)



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