Psychokinesis

Kineto · Tourist

Christianity

owltwelve · International Psionics Researcher/Author/Journalist

Well, I'm not a practicing Christian anymore, but I was for most of my life. I would say a few things about your question. The 1st is that we would have to know for sure what psychokinesis is before we could say that a belief system opposes it. I don't recall seeing the word psychokinesis in the Bible, do you?

My main suggestion to you is to know your own mind, without following anyone blindly. Why do you have a mind which can reason & interpret phenomena, if you are not meant to apply these attributes. I had the capacity to develop skills as an artist, which a later leveraged into a career; is that wrong?

Why should psychokinesis, be against Christianity, any more than moving an object with your bare hands. If you were blessed with the capacity to move things with your mind, why shouldn't you:)

Kineto · Tourist

Hah, I have never seen the word "psychokinesis" mentioned anywhere in the Bible.
Thank you, I feel the same way.

FridgeNatious · PK forum Research Veteran

in the version i grew up reading somehwere it said something like "be perfect as your father in heaven is perfect"

i think jesus also encouraged a disciple who walked on water briefly before he fell due to losing "faith"

there was one time he appeared to heal some woman's issue with bleeding then said something like "it was this woman's faith that healed her"

Draspy · International Psionics Journalist

Not even anywhere near being against christianity o.o
Trust me.. anyone who tells you so.. is just afraid of the unknown , i deal with people like that all the time..
Being a christian in a religious country/community.. such stuff arent so "accepted" by people.
But it got NOTHING against christianity...
In fact.. Jesus told us to be like him.. to love others and to help them.. so if jesus wanted us to be like him doesnt that mean he wanted us to have a strong faith and do even miracles (not raise someone from the dead for sure.. xD but energy healing is already common these days.. and it is part of what jesus was doing.. he was a HEALER)
And jesus turned water to wine?? walked on water?
Adam and eve were telepaths because they could talk to animals..
I say psychokinesis is more "with christianity" than it is against it..

^^ If you got problems with people telling you it is against it.. Send me a pm with their questions.. xD i already know most of them

Kineto · Tourist

Awesome, thank you both FridgeNatious and Draspy.
@Draspy I don't usually bring up anything about psychokinesis around many people, especially those from my church. But, thank you.

I've been practicing psychokinesis for about 1-2 years on and off, and have stopped recently. I am starting back up again, though, but I wish to have better results than last time.

Thank you!

Draspy · International Psionics Journalist

Trust me xD No one would bring psychokinesis up around church-people xD lolz.. baaaaaad idea :D Especially if they aint open minded :D

Charis · Researcher

Isn;t Jesus himself said that if you have the faith of a mustard seed you will say to the mountain to move and it will move? Din;t he said to the Apostles, when he was at the boat and there was like a storm, that they have nothing to worry about, and how little faith they had? He stood up and cease the storm! If those actions are not Pk then what is it?

Not only that, Jesus wanted people to be like him, to have faith and be able to do all those things. No where Jesus claim those things are only for him or anything like that. Being a Christian I believe that it should be your job to do things like that! Seriously, I have study for 3 years about what Jesus said and I have come to this conclution.

Shirak · International Psionics Researcher/Author/Journalist

"If you have faith the size of a mustard seed you can Move mountains" Jesus Christ
"All these things ye see me do you can do and more if you have faith" Jesus Christ
I believe he was trying to tell us about our true potential and they killed him for it.
Oh one more Moses parting the Red Sea
Daniel in the lions Den (Call of the Wild)
Shadrac Nishak and Abednigo thrown into a furnace did not get burned "Pyrokinesis"

So many more if the bible is your go to book for faith then there are multitudes of examples. The key was humility. (No ego) Warnings throughout of the pride cycle.
Having said this I believe the book has been heavily edited from its original sources so as a reference its inspirational however one must remember many of the translations were open to interpretation and until the invention of the printing press each scribe would hand write and translate according to their own esoteric translation.

Skepti2psychic · International Psionics Researcher/Author/Journalist

not only that shirak but the romans when they where lossing there power in 290 Ad and 300Ad highly edited the old bible and alot of the verbal preachings. i find it funny the romans kept power for another 2k years. alot of whats in the new bible is actualy incomplete and very minpulated. personly i think if jesus did exist he conforms more with eastern belifes. but thats a personal idea i hope this does not offend any one(the eatern belife the roman part is facts)

Sussch · International Psionics Researcher/Author/Journalist

@Grengoshi: That's what my physics teacher once said as well. He proposed that Jesus studied yoga in the East and came back to teach others.

I don't know, but maybe there are some documentaries on this.

owltwelve · International Psionics Researcher/Author/Journalist

He may have also studied Hermetics. One can also find evidence that the early Chistian sects were influenced by Egyptian spirituality:)

-- Edited by owltwelve on Thursday 8th of September 2011 03:47:33 AM

Skepti2psychic · International Psionics Researcher/Author/Journalist

lol its nice when people listen to my views and not shut me down like most people do. alot of the bible was rewriten and even the early followers didnt belive in the old testamines. some of the belifes where strongly pagan as well. (judasim was once a pagan religion that slowly turned monotheistic bc one god said follow me or you all will suffer. and a bunch of events came) people dont want to see that theres a chance that somthing that they where tought from a kid could be wrong (most likly is) i hope i have not offended any one i just see life diffirently.

Torig · Psychokinetic Researcher

A person aware of his predicament who reads the New Testament would see it's pretty much a guide to erasing confusion and weakness.

"All things indeed are pure; but it is evil for that man who eateth with offence.

It is good neither to eat flesh, nor to drink wine, nor any thing whereby thy brother stumbleth, or is offended, or is made weak.

Hast thou faith? Have it to thyself before God. Happy is he that condemneth not himself in that thing which he alloweth.

And he that doubteth is damned if he eat, because he eateth not of faith: for whatsoever is not of faith is sin."

Romans 14:20-23

Sussch · International Psionics Researcher/Author/Journalist

@Torig: Welcome to the forum! aww

Torig · Psychokinetic Researcher

@Sussch Thanks.

Arramu · Psionics Journalist

my re teacher told me that the RCC-roman catholic church is against ani kind of magic, so they say magic is bad. i suggested u wake up stop believing in a stupid idea of an old man sitting in clouds. and if 1 being reallly made us, then he doesnt want to worship him

Nox · International Psionics Journalist

andreidionisie wrote:
my re teacher told me that the RCC-roman catholic church is against ani kind of magic, so they say magic is bad. i suggested u wake up stop believing in a stupid idea of an old man sitting in clouds. and if 1 being reallly made us, then he doesnt want to worship him

You realize the hypocrisy in your own statement, don't you? You say wake up and stop believing in nonsense, on a forum board about telekinesis and superhuman powers. There are plenty who would criticize you for believing in telekinesis and/or other things considered supernatural.

Besides, there are actually good arguments out there supporting the existence of a god or deity.

Joshua3109 · Psychokinetic Researcher

I concur with you Nox. Simply put everything in creation is made of the One energy/consciousness/God. There is no difference in anybody or anything; the mind which is finite creates duality.

It is easier to attain enlightenment if you believe in God but it is not necessary. You can view everything as the One energy if you wish; it is all up to you.

Torig · Psychokinetic Researcher

To me pk seems as magical as 1+1=2.

Less needs is less lust. Less lust is less pain. "Love worketh no ill to his neighbor".

Catholic, even Vatican authorities haven't obeyed the commands the bible displays. Google Angelo Balducci if you will. Check 2nd commandment if you will.

"You shall not make for yourself any graven image, or any likeness of what is in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the water under the earth."

"So watch yourselves carefully, since you did not see any form on the day Yahweh spoke to you at Horeb [i.e., Mt. Sinai] from the midst of the fire; lest you act corruptly and make a graven image for yourselves in the form of any figure, the likeness of male or female,the likeness of any animal that is on the earth, the likeness of any winged bird that flies in the sky, the likeness of anything that creeps on the ground, the likeness of any fish that is in the water below the earth."

Lust is every pain. No lust is heaven/love/perfection.