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A pk master


A pk master in China:



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I saw this some time ago, but unfortunatly this man is a proven fraud. Since the first time I saw it I suspected there was something wrong, his table looked too suspicious. Real Tkist dont need conditions so much specific and ~hidden~

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I'm not completely convinced he is a fake. I also heard of the measures went to debunk him, but nothing conclusive as far as I've seen. It's like that russian pyrokinetic.

This is not to say that I think he is real. I lie somewhere in the middle. Not sure, over all. But if he is real, that is fricken impressive!

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Well, in my mind he's real. That's because this way it has a meaning - it's inspiring.



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I'm guessing it's fake. Most of us use concentration instead of yelling for no reason (i know, it's used in martial arts... in PK it's pointless. Breathing techniques would atleast would make it believeable ).

@Sussch, I like the way you think. But wouldn't it be easier to watch a PK movie instead then? :D

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I'm guessing it's fake. Most of us use concentration instead of yelling for no reason (i know, it's used in martial arts... in PK it's pointless. Breathing techniques would atleast would make it believeable ).

It's pointless to us, but maybe not to him. For instance, in Kendo, you are supposed to yell or scream when you strike.



Well, in my mind he's real. That's because this way it has a meaning - it's inspiring.

I agree, it is. :)



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An interesting video, about a yogi skilled at extreme fire resistance through concentration & union:

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That was pretty interesting.

I was waiting for him to stick his whole hand in the fire and leave it there a moment, though.

Also interesting how he said that he couldn't get anywhere without a guru.

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That's pretty incredible. Thanks for bringing up this one!

@Alar34: Yeah, I enjoy watching pk movies and anime too. It's pretty cool, how you can actually feel the drawn environment, characters and the effects of their pk. Sort of even interact with the characters..



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Who is calling this vid a fake?

Why?

Envy? Jealousy? Are you really not paying that much attention? I ask because I know I have attention in spades. And I paid some of that attention to this video.

I can see the table cloth move for no reason before he puts his full focus onto an object.


When he moves the bowl of water it is only the bowl he has.... the water he is not touching... just the bowl. and that is clearly evident ... to me. As well as why he placed that bowl on a board on the table.

He could yell,scream or sing and that would mean nothing to me. His actions and the actions of the area surrounding him... that is the limitus test.

Multiple objects.... some on different textured surfaces... all out in the open air.... and some folks wanna disparage the dude because of his level ????

introspection may be called for.

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Iīm sorry but I dontīsee where the "Envy" thing could be coming from.



The "something" that seems to move violently upwards at 4:45 seems to be strong indicator its a fraud. And exactly, as you said it yourself, because of his aparent great level, he should still be able to do this even after they changed the red cloth to the white and switched the position of the bottle. And yet he doesnīt. Iīm not saying Iīm 100% sure its fake cause I didn't met the man personally so I canīt judge too much. Of course, its possible that the red cloth was somehow magically empowered though meditations and after changing it he couldnīt do it. And some other improbable but still possible explanations for his failures and etc. But still, after seeing countless real PK feats from real honest people in this forum and others, I canīt deny that the old man seems fishy. Iīm saying all this because I think that people frauding PK on TV and other places are being VERY disrespectful to those who dedicate parts of their lives to develop and study the real thing as folk on this forum do. 



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